The Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58807

    #31
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58807

      #32
      Originally posted by FORD

      And after hearing the whole "Soul Survivor" outtake, all I can say is...... Heroin... .what a helluva drug
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58807

        #33
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Mr Walker
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2536

          #34
          As the eight-year-old boy walked through the vast iron gates of Villa Nellcote on the Cote d’Azur in the South of France, the scene unfolded like a child’s fantasy.

          There was a huge pool complete with diving board, a sprawling toy-filled sandpit and even a selection of miniature motorbikes parked alongside a mansion that housed a menagerie of dogs, cats and a rabbit.

          Tugging the sleeve of his six-year-old brother, young Jake Weber could barely contain his excitement as he cried: ‘It’s just like a fairytale palace!’
          'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street

          'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street

          But the Villa Nellcote, known locally for having been a Nazi headquarters during the war, was certainly no place for children.

          No sooner had the heavy wooden doors to the mansion closed than one of the most famous men on the planet lurched forward.

          Pausing to give Jake’s golden hair a half-hearted tousle, Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards knelt down and pulled the boy’s T-shirt off, revealing a package wrapped in plastic taped firmly to Jake’s bare stomach.

          This, the boy learned, was to be Richards’s ‘wedding gift’ to bandmate Mick Jagger. Inside the package was half a kilo of cocaine.

          Jake’s brother, Charley, also had half a kilo wrapped round his body. This would be for Richards’s own use.

          This, the boy learned, was to be Richards’s ‘wedding gift’ to bandmate Mick Jagger. Inside the package was half a kilo of cocaine

          Both consignments had been carefully prepared – and concealed on them by the boys’ father. It was, as Jake put it, ‘pretty outrageous even by the debauched standards of the Rolling Stones. To use kids as drug mules takes some doing’.

          Tonight the full hedonistic extent of that summer at the 54-room Villa Nellcote will be laid bare when a new documentary, Stones In Exile, is broadcast on BBC1.

          The film coincides with the re-release of the Stones’ legendary double album Exile On Main Street, which is considered by many to be the greatest rock and roll album.

          Almost as legendary as the music – created in a makeshift basement studio that was so damp that the guitars constantly went out of tune – are the antics of the band and their colourful entourage: heroin-addled Richards and his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg; Mick Jagger and his new bride, the sultry Bianca; Charlie Watts; Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor.

          At Nellcote, the Stones embarked on an orgy of partying surrounded by drug-pushers and legions of hangers-on, punctuated by occasional visits from celebrity friends like John Lennon and Yoko Ono. They submerged themselves in a bacchanalian haze of hash, cocaine, heroin and alcohol by day before retreating to their basement lair by night, to create classic tracks such as Tumbling Dice, Happy and Sweet Virginia.

          But there was a still more extraordinary, and some might say disturbing, aspect to the dark fantasy playing out beneath the crystal chandeliers: along with the band members, their girlfriends and the groupies, there was an audience of vulnerable children who watched as the mayhem unfolded.

          Today Jake Weber is 46 and a successful Hollywood actor. It is to his credit that he survived this particular journey to the wilder fringes of celebrity life – although, in his own way, he too would later become a victim of the culture of drugs and hedonism that was celebrated so recklessly during that summer with the Stones in 1971.

          There had been something of the fairy tale in Jake’s own family background. His parents, who had married in 1964, had been regarded as one of Britain’s most beautiful couples, albeit with a dark, hidden secret.

          His mother was Susan ‘Puss’ Coriat, the exquisite but emotionally fragile heiress to a large trust fund. Susan was the daughter of Priscilla Chrystal Frances Blundell Weigall, who inherited a fortune worth the equivalent of £120 million today, and Harold Coriat, a land agent for Priscilla’s first husband, Viscount Edward Curzon.

          'I can remember the smells of Villa Nellcote, the roses in the garden, the sea foam when we went on the boat with Keith, the smoke and booze fumes that would hang in the air every morning when we would go downstairs'

          The family’s wealth came from Priscilla’s grandfather John Maple, who transformed a modest furniture store on Tottenham Court Road in London into the world’s largest luxury furniture empire during the Victorian era.

          Jake’s father was Tommy Weber, the son of a Danish aristocrat. Tommy’s grandfather was Reginald Evelyn Weber, a good friend of King George VI (they shared a love of stamp collecting) who built his fortune with the coffee, tea and spice importing firm Weber, Smith and Hoare.

          Tommy was a socialite and racing-car enthusiast who was also a notorious gambler and drug supplier to the rich and infamous – including the Stones.

          Puss became steadily more consumed by drug dependency and a thirst for spiritual fulfilment. She was being treated in a clinic in England when Tommy took Jake and his brother to France for Jagger’s May 1971 wedding – and stayed for five months.

          Jake says: ‘I remember it vividly. I was eight years old but I think that is the age when you first start to have vivid recall. I can remember the smells of Villa Nellcote, the roses in the garden, the sea foam when we went on the boat with Keith, the smoke and booze fumes that would hang in the air every morning when we would go downstairs.’

          The Stones had fled to the mansion near Cannes, which was being rented by Richards for £1,000 a week, to escape Britain’s top tax rate of 93 per cent.

          Jake and his brother were given rooms at the very top of the mansion. They were not the only children there. Anita and Keith had brought their toddler son Marlon to the South of France and, according to Jake, there were other children who came and went.

          Presented with such freedom, Jake is happy to admit that he enjoyed his weeks at the mansion, for the most part at least. ‘I can’t complain and say how terrible it was because I don’t remember it like that. We were in a castle with endless toys, sandy beaches, food and sweets.’

          Jake and his new summertime playmates enjoyed the treats to the full.

          ‘The adults were very kind to us,’ he says. ‘I had a rabbit and no one could figure out how to lift it out of its cage properly until Keith came along one day and grabbed it by the ears. I remember going out with Keith on his motorboat and he’d play at being a pirate and pretend to board the yachts in the harbour. My brother and I were pageboys at Mick and Bianca’s wedding. Those are the happy memories.’

          He describes Anita Pallenberg as kind and nurturing, even though she admits to being ‘wasted’ on heroin at the time. Anita, who spent the summer in a striking leopard-print bikini, was pregnant with someone’s child, but was not entirely clear about the father. Pallenberg, a friend of Jake’s mother, had slept with both Jagger and Richards that summer.

          Jake recalls: ‘Anita always made sure we ate and were dressed well. I knew what was going on with the drugs and sex. You would have to be blind not to see it. There was dope and lots of cocaine and heroin. People would be wasted but no one was ever unkind to me and my brother.

          If he survived Villa Nellcote, the wider consequences of the drug culture that surrounded him were inescapable. ‘Yes, there was a dark side too,’ he concedes

          ‘We were allowed to wander freely around. There was no such thing as “bed time” – you just took yourself off when you felt tired. The days were endlessly sunny. We had a series of chefs who would cook you anything you wanted. There would be piles of pastries alongside the bottles of wine for breakfast.

          ‘My brother and I never drank or did drugs. We were too young. We would dance around the room to Brown Sugar while everyone else got stoned.’

          If he survived Villa Nellcote, the wider consequences of the drug culture that surrounded him were inescapable. ‘Yes, there was a dark side too,’ he concedes.

          His handsome father, for example, preferred louche living to spending time with his boys. ‘My father didn’t know how to be a father,’ says Jake. ‘He would be off doing drugs or having sex. I did my own thing and was happy to sit and watch Mick and Keith create long into the night.’

          Tommy had recently ended an affair with the actress Charlotte Rampling and had told his sons that their mother would join them at the villa, once she had completed her rehabilitation. Her experimentation with LSD had led to schizophrenia and a period of hospitalisation, including electroshock therapy.

          Pallenberg and Puss had became friends at Bowden House, a rehab clinic in Harrow. They met in March 1971 when both checked in to Bowden, which at the time was dubbed ‘a drying-out paddock for the rich and famous’ by the Press. Both regularly left the clinic to party in London and, according to Tommy, Puss confessed she and Anita enjoyed a ‘brief but satisfying’ lesbian affair.

          He later told his children that while he believed Puss was planning to travel to the villa to reconcile with him, she may also have been coming to rekindle her romance with Pallenberg. Whatever the motive, the eagerly awaited reunion would never take place.

          On June 7, 1971, Richards received an urgent telegram from London and Tommy was left to break the news to his two sons that their mother, newly released from the clinic, had died. At first Jake was told it was an accident, but later he was to learn that she had taken her own life with an overdose of prescription pills. She was just 27.

          Jake says: ‘When my brother and I were told of the death I remember us both breaking into pathetic sobs, and then for a couple of weeks I was in a haze of grief.

          ‘My father was not capable of looking after us on his own. But the group at the villa rallied round. We were surrounded by people who loved us and cared for us, even though they were out of their minds most of the time. That’s how we made it through. I don’t think they were bad people, it was just a different time, a different era.’

          Neither of the boys attended the funeral, which was thought to be too distressing an occasion. Instead, they remained at the villa for the rest of the summer.

          Today, almost 40 years on, Jake lives with his long-time partner, actress Liz Carey, and their four-year-old son Waylon in a sprawling home near the ocean in Malibu.

          He has worked steadily as an actor in films such as The Pelican Brief, Meet Joe Black and Dawn Of The Dead and now stars opposite Patricia Arquette in the hit US drama Medium. For this is he grateful to his wealthy godfather, American businessman Peter van Gerbig, who had been best man at Tommy and Puss’s wedding and took Jake under his wing.

          Van Gerbig not only paid for his education, he encouraged him to go to Juilliard, America’s top acting school. Jake was nearly 13 when he arrived in the States. The plan had been to bring his younger brother over too but, says Jake, van Gerbig had a new family of his own and bringing Charley over too ‘became too much’. The siblings would not see each other for years.

          Charley remained with Tommy in England and did not fare so well. His father squandered every penny on drugs. In a book about the Webers, A Day In The Life, Charley told author Robert Greenfield: ‘I had to give Dad my last five quid so he could get a fix.’ Charley ended up living on friends’ couches and even endured a brief period on the streets before pulling his life together.

          Jake says: ‘My brother had some very tough times. He was there one time when Dad overdosed on heroin. He suffered more than I did.’

          Tommy Weber was repeatedly arrested and convicted for possession of heroin and cannabis as well as drink-driving. He ended up serving 11 months in prison.

          In 1982, Jake saw his father for the first time in years. Tommy gave him a letter which read: ‘Jake, there is a very important secret to life. Work is much more interesting than play and if you are lucky enough to be able to make your work your play and your play pay, well, then you’re in clover.’

          Jake says his relationship with his brother, so close at the villa, also suffered. ‘Once I moved to America we were in different worlds.’

          In September 2006, after years of ill-health and a series of heart attacks, Tommy was diagnosed with a cancerous tumour on his liver.

          His veins had collapsed through drug use and nurses were forced to inject pain edication into the soles of his feet. He died on September 21, 2006, aged 66. Charley still lives in England and works as a film editor.

          Despite his exposure to the Stones’ rock-and-roll lifestyle, Jake says he has never been tempted by the excesses he witnessed during the Exile On Main Street period.

          He says: ‘I think round parents often have square children. I enjoy a cocktail but that’s as far as it goes. I have my own family, my own home, and I treasure what I have built for myself.’

          But the summer of 1971 remains with him in the sharpest and most colourful detail. He says: ‘I treasure my memories and of being a very small part of a moment in history.’

          By chance, a couple of years ago Jake bumped into Mick Jagger in the garden of Hollywood’s Chateau Marmont hotel. Jake recalls: ‘I went up to him and told him I was Tommy Weber’s son, Jake. He looked at me for a while and said, “Oh right, that was a long time ago, wasn’t it?”

          ‘He was with some other people so I excused myself and went back to my table. That was that.’

          Jagger later left the hotel without pausing to say goodbye.

          ‘He’s moved on ... and so have I,’ says Jake.

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          • Jagermeister
            Full Member Status

            • Apr 2010
            • 4510

            #35
            You expended all your energy on that for the day.

            I had several thinks pending today for you but no since posting the now cause you shot your wad right there.

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            • Mr Walker
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2536

              #36
              Originally posted by Jagermeister
              You expended all your energy on that for the day.

              I had several thinks pending today for you but no since posting the now cause you shot your wad right there.
              This makes no sense... what the hell is wrong with you?

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              • Jagermeister
                Full Member Status

                • Apr 2010
                • 4510

                #37
                Originally posted by Mr Walker
                This makes no sense... what the hell is wrong with you?
                I was joking!

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                • chefcraig
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 12172

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mr Walker
                  As the eight-year-old boy walked through the vast iron gates of Villa Nellcote on the Cote d’Azur in the South of France, the scene unfolded like a child’s fantasy...'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street...
                  Thanks for posting that. Weber was interviewed for Robert Greenfield's fascinating book Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones , and his insights (made as an adult) are truly revealing. While Green field may have been present for some of the recording sessions, the bulk of his material stems from an interview he conducted with Keef during the period (he worked for Rolling Stone as the bureau chief in England), and the memories of a curious band of hangers-on. A great portion of this book might be total horseshit, but it still is compelling reading and is the best book on the subject that I've read. Highly recommended.

                  Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones










                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • Mr Walker
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2536

                    #39
                    I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

                    Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

                    I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.

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                    • chefcraig
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 12172

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mr Walker
                      I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

                      Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

                      I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.
                      Yes, it really is a library type rental, because even in paperback, it hardly comes across as a proper reference work. It's more attuned to the "dirt" of what supposedly took place, and in that regard it works. The problem with many of these Stones books (not including the ones you mentioned) is they seem to trade on the sordid tales, rather than any cold hard facts. As such, they can be entertaining, yet you really do not learn all that much. I'm still looking for a copy of "S.T.P...", perhaps I'll have someone order a copy for our building.









                      “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                      ― Stephen Hawking

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                      • Catfish
                        Sniper
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 898

                        #41
                        Great 'new' song! How'd they leave that off ANY record???

                        Is that Mick going falsetto in the chorus???

                        And stop fucking up a great thread with nonsense, Hagarmeister!

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                        • Mr Walker
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2536

                          #42
                          Just picked up 'S.T.P.' from Amazon, reviews were much better so I didn't mind dropping the money.
                          I'm gonna pick this up next time I go to Barnes And Noble...

                          What Would Keith Richards Do?: Daily Affirmations from a Rock and Roll Survivor

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                          • Mr Walker
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2536

                            #43
                            On the whole, I thought the 10 bonus tracks were a bit underwhelming.

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                            • Igosplut
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2794

                              #44
                              Here ya go Chef, 13 of 'em all used from 9.83 and up...

                              Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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                              • Catfish
                                Sniper
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 898

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Mr Walker
                                I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

                                Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

                                I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.
                                Did you ever read 'Old Gods Almost Dead', Mr Walker? Or 'Nankering with the Rolling Stones'? Both excellent!

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