Ted Nugent

[lms2]

Panamark, I understand what your answer is saying, I just don't think it answers the question. If I can afford to go to the store and buy clothes made in a sweat shop buy some underprivileged third world preteen, does that mean I can't make my own because I enjoy it?

But thats okay. I really could care less one way or the other on this topic.

Off topic, but just curious... if you were to learn that David Lee had been with a 12 year old when he was 22, would that change your opinion of him, or would it be okay since he doesn't hunt?

[SweetSecrets]

Originally posted by HELLVIS
Ouch! Dick-head? We're just having a discussion here. I respect and enjoy Panamark's posts. That's why I reply to them. I also happen to like Ted...more reason to reply. I mean no disrespect.
I am however, glad that there are people out there, like you, to protect and defend those who need protecting and defending. ( not that Panamark needs it or anything )

Have a vote you big defender you!

Sorry HELLVIS! I've had a crazy week (lame excuse), and should not have called you a "dick-head." I fully respect your opinions, and I am glad that you share them! :bottle: May the Army prevail! One vote, right back at ya!

(Oh, and about the Panamark thing...I am a bit of a softy for the guy.)

[Panamark]

Originally posted by lms2
Panamark, I understand what your answer is saying, I just don't think it answers the question. If I can afford to go to the store and buy clothes made in a sweat shop buy some underprivileged third world preteen, does that mean I can't make my own because I enjoy it?

But thats okay. I really could care less one way or the other on this topic.

Off topic, but just curious... if you were to learn that David Lee had been with a 12 year old when he was 22, would that change your opinion of him, or would it be okay since he doesn't hunt?

LMS, your example does not include murder. That is no comparison
in the context of this argument.


On the off topic one, I think soliciting blowjobs from preteens is
just as evil than murdering defenceless animals in the wild.
(More so !!)

Dave would never do this. But for hypothical's sake, I would
totally disrepect the man if I knew he had done this to a preteen.

[lms2]

On the sweatshop comment... it is a slow agonizing death. Again, though you are more supportive of "life" whereas my views are based more on quality of life.

Comment on the off topic. Wasn't Dave in a teeny bopper mag flaunting his stuff? So doesn't it make sense that there would be a lot of teeny boppers throwing themselves at him? Every man has his weak spot...

Next question on the off topic. At what "age" does "age" quit making a difference. Though most would agree it is wrong to have any type of sexual relations with a preteen...but most 40 year old men would not pass up the chance to have sexual relations with a 20 year old woman. 20-10, 10 yrs=wrong 40-20, 20 yrs=okay ?????

[Big Troubles]

Im guessing that's not a wedding band?

[Panamark]

Originally posted by lms2
On the sweatshop comment... it is a slow agonizing death. Again, though you are more supportive of "life" whereas my views are based more on quality of life.

Comment on the off topic. Wasn't Dave in a teeny bopper mag flaunting his stuff? So doesn't it make sense that there would be a lot of teeny boppers throwing themselves at him? Every man has his weak spot...

Next question on the off topic. At what "age" does "age" quit making a difference. Though most would agree it is wrong to have any type of sexual relations with a preteen...but most 40 year old men would not pass up the chance to have sexual relations with a 20 year old woman. 20-10, 10 yrs=wrong 40-20, 20 yrs=okay ?????

Are you for real with your sweatshop comparison ? Come on, give
me a better example than that. Although cruel, the people working in
these sweatshops do have the option, not to. Yes I know their
financial situations force them into such barbaric industries, but at the
end of the day they can chose not to work there.

As for your second response, are you kidding me ????

Originally posted by lms2

"Most would agree it is wrong to have any type of sexual relations with a preteen"

*MOST* WTF ?????? I know where I come from *ALL* people would
agree that it was wrong.

Theres no way, you support that shit, I know this.


As for your other example, 40 year old man, 20 year old woman.
The woman is an adult, sexually developed, and doesnt have the
risk of being physcologically fucked for life for performing sexual
acts on a man before she was even a teenager.

I had a 39 year old girlfriend at one stage, when I was 21. Not
far from your comparison in years. She was a very attractive woman
and I can tell you now, there was never a feeling of anything being
wrong.

In the corporate world I have seen many men in their 40's and 50's
end up dating secrataries in their early 20's as girlfriends, and
many get married. Look at your very own glamour industry in the US
(Hollywood) celebrity relationships between older men and younger
women (not girls) is totally acceptable. 15-20 years age difference is
not considered illegal by law, nor is it shunned by society in these
modern times. However, a fully grown man, soliciting blowjobs from
preteen girls is wrong. I dont see how one person here can even
justify that ?

I dont have problems with older men / younger women as most
the parents of people I know, have at least 10 years between
them, 15-20 is nothing these days.Welcome to the new century.
On the flipside I know of many women in their 40's dating guys
in their 20's. I dont get how you can use this as a justification
for paedophilia ??????

LMS, fucking around with children is plain wrong.

I cant fathom any responsible link between those two examples.

[Panamark]

Oh and as for Dave being in a Teenie publication. Van Halen's management would have been very incompetent not to use
this medium to promote Dave/Van Halen. Its well know that
teenage girls buy the most records. Doesnt mean that Dave is
out there getting blowjobs from little 12 year old girls.

By the way, I know you are a great woman, and would be
horrified by this kind of thing, my answers here are in no
way an assumption that you support such things.

[lms2]

Of course I dont. I just had to see you get riled up about something besides hunting.

I think I will just drop everything now.

[tyler412]

animals were put on this planet to be eaten , not to have as pets!
IVE EATEN CATS,DOGS, MONKEYS,BEAR,PIGS,ZEBRASAND MANY OTHER ANIMALS IN OUR COUNTRY. GET OVER IT.

NUGENT AND ROTH ARE GODS

[Matt White]

Uncle TED:
Hunting and 2nd Amendment views=FUCKING RIGHT!!!

MUSIC=BORING!!!
Political Views=???
In light of his recent infidelity scandal, Uncle Ted isn't really qualified to talk about "Family Values", unless it concerns starting 2or 3 families of your own...simultaneously!!!!

DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

[ashstralia]

i'd like to apologise to jacksmar,
for calling him an idiot.
jacksmar, i'm sorry,
your prescence on this website
confirms the fact that you're
not an idiot. (i've read your posts)
we may not agree,
but we're on the same side.
but,
please people, DON'T KILL ANIMALS!!!!!!

[jacksmar]

Thanks ash.
BUT WHY KILL IF YOU DONT HAVE TO

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/23/Worldandnation/Bambi_in_the_crosshai.shtml

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3955

Species management?

So why kill to eat another innocent animal yourself, when there are millions who have already been butchared for that reason?
We don't hunt to kill, we kill in order to have hunted. Do any of you grow vegetables in your backyard?

Vegans live happy healthy lives.

http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_vegetarianism.html

I don’t know what a vegan is. Do you plant seeds to have a vegan grow in your backyard? A vegetarian eats vegetables on the whole and a vegan is a vegetarian with a political axe to grind. Big difference.


Yankee Rose's questions of what does money have to do with it?

http://www.nrahq.org/hunting/huntdollarsbuy.asp

http://www.api4animals.org/70.htm

Both of the sites make monetary assumptions. But in the US, it comes down to a tax, in it’s simplest form.
And where there’s a tax dollar floating into a US State, there’s a politician with a net and bucket try to spend it.

Just a simple test to see how many of you think. Answer honestly.
If you drive a car, you’re hurting the ????

[Golden AWe]

nugent seemed like a proper moron on the last interview i saw from him...

[Panamark]

Originally posted by tyler412
animals were put on this planet to be eaten , not to have as pets!
IVE EATEN CATS,DOGS, MONKEYS,BEAR,PIGS,ZEBRASAND MANY OTHER ANIMALS IN OUR COUNTRY. GET OVER IT.

You really should stick to eating your woman, dude ...
That shit is really sick...

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by Panamark
You really should stick to eating your woman, dude ...
That shit is really sick...

I agree. Zebras and Monkeys? WTF!