is there a god

[Shaun Ponsonby]

If there is a God-he's a bastard.

[Matt White]

"is there a god?"

YES

[Carmine]

Is there a God?

I believe that there is, without queston.

[Warham]

Absolutely.

[Matt White]

"I talk to 'em every day."

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Carmine Raguzza.
Is there a God?

I believe that there is, without queston.

That's the only possible way to believe in one...

[vanzilla]

Why did this get bumped?

[vanzilla]

By the way Matt...nice tits on Liz Phair there. Fucking awesome.

Now - where were we? Oh yeh - God, um....yeh.

[FORD]

Liz Phair's tits are proof that God exists

[superdave]

hmmm, with me being an Aetheist.....

[vanzilla]

Originally posted by FORD
Liz Phair's tits are proof that God exists

If I could ever get them in my mouth - that would definitely be a miracle.

[Redballjets88]

god does exsist if he didnt no one would be alive....people say that the big bang created everything...well how did that happen...who made the things that cause the big bang....and how did those things get here...there has to be a creator

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by vanzilla
Why did this get bumped?

Yea, we can argue until 2007 on that same thread...

The real answer is hidden deep inside each of our own selves.

[Little Texan]

I'm leaning towards no.

No one has ever seen, nor heard this god speak (no matter how many christian nutjobs have claimed that he's spoken to them). There is no physical nor visual evidence of his existence.

The bible is supposedly the divine, infallable word of god, yet the bible is saturated with contradictions, inaccuracies, and complete falsehoods. If it is truly god's word, then why so many errors?

The part that always gets me is this god supposedly is full of love for his creations, yet throughout the bible there are instances where god has killed scores of people because he is angry with them. He also created a place to send his "beloved" creations to to torment them for all eternity if they don't live according to his rules. Yep, sounds like genuine, true love to me.

I'm sorry, but I'm the kind of person that has to have proof that something exists before I'll believe in it. If someone tells you that a flying pink elephant exists because an old ancient book says so, yet it has never been seen and there is no physical evidence of one ever existing, are you going to believe in flying pink elephants?

No one can prove the existence of a god. You can say that stuff didn't just happen by accident and we had to be created by something, but you can't prove that this particular god in the bible is responsible for making it all happen.

Furthermore, how many religions and gods have there been throughout the history of mankind that have come and gone and have since been proven false? Zeus, anyone? The ancient Greeks had a strong belief in their gods, too, much as christians do today in Jesus and god, but did that make their deities any more real? Why, then, are we to believe that the god in the bible is any more real than all the previous deities throughout time?

Also, logic states that in order for god to even exist, that something had to have created god...he didn't happen just by accident. Where did this god come from? The whole chicken and egg thing...

Just my two pennies...

[Seshmeister]

Amen!

You've nicely summed up the main points.

Religion is basically a virus passed on from parent to child.

We've evolved so that as children we are preprogrammed to believe what our parents tell us. This is very important because otherwise offspring would jump off a cliff or eat the poisonous berries or try and pet the sabre tooth tiger. The ones that didn't didn't survive. When a parent passes on the superstitions that they have inherited from their parents this has a strong hold on their children which is hard to shake.

To give an example of the insanity of this my Dad recently said to me 'I insist my grandchildren are brought up as Christians and go to Sunday school.' My Dad only goes to church for weddings and funerals. He doesn't know much about scripture or much about the history of the bible and is a retired scientist. Like so many people I think he see's religion as a comfort blanket and a morality tool. I think he was a little shocked at my 20 minute detailed fuck off rant where I pointed out it does neither.

If you are religious unless you have been indoctrinated by a cult then you have to accept that like 99.99% of religious people your 'beliefs'(where belief is a euphanism for illogical unsubstatiated crazy superstions) are completely based on the accident of your peer group and geography.

Cheers!