I've got a troublesome problem

[Dr. Love]

Cite one.

That's "[citation needed]"

[katie]

Here's where Sesh and my views on "religion", spirituality, afterlife, diverge....

Without getting into detail of my own father raping me experience, I ABSOLUTELY know [not believe] there is something out there past this dimension/life/world.


But there IS something else out there, and NO ONE is going to ever convince me otherwise after what I experienced.

Good story, Dr. Love.

I'm sorry to hear that Lounge.

Do you ever get flashbacks?


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[LoungeMachine]

I'm sorry to hear that Lounge.

Do you ever get flashbacks?


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Rewriting quotes?

Come back when you have some game, dear.

Your little vacation we gave you didn't do the trick.

Hope you get better soon. Stay on the Valtrex.

[Nickdfresh]

Is that you, Sesh? :D

Nationwide ghost debunking exercise launched by Professor - Telegraph

[FORD]

Summer of 1996 I shared this house with a couple of friends. Between all the political organizing during the day, and the parties at night, we were rarely alone, but there seemed to be a fourth person living with us, even though we didn't see them. And when some friends and I were performing a Native American "house cleansing" ceremony, we all felt the presence of this spirit being there. We didn't get the impression that the spirit was malevolent or wished any sort of harm on us, just that it was "confused" and didn't know how to leave and move on to a place where spirits belong.

Of course my housemates weren't present when I did this particular ceremony. If they had been, I might have heard the back story on the "uninvited guest". That came several weeks later. One of my housemates freaked out about some circumstances that had nothing to do with ghosts, spirits, or anything else relevant, but all the same it eventually meant we had to give up the house. The other housemate was a delegate to the national Democratic convention that year, so his parents had to move his stuff out of the house while he was out of town.

His mom says, "Oh, looks like Harvey's going to be moving back in with us"

I ask "Harvey? who's that?"

"He's the ghost that goes wherever this flag is".

Oh..... sure would have been nice if Don had mentioned that to us!

This was one of those "official" US issued flags. Like the ones they put on the coffins at military funerals, and then fold up into a triangle and present to the widow or other designated next of kin. Except this was a 48 star version, so it would have been older.

So did we have the ghost of some old veteran "living" with us, and confused as to why he was "evicted" from his home in Orting, and then the student housing at Evergreen? Draw your own conclusions, but I believe it.

And aside from this story, I've seen numerous other things in my life that indicate a reality not explained by what we know of the physical world, but none that really fit this thread, like that story does.

[hideyoursheep]

If there are such a thing a spirits, or whatever, and they get pissed over me owning a piece of furniture they no longer use, then they'd better use it!

When they do, I'll be sure to post the video.

[hideyoursheep]

You would make a great bodyguard because you're well versed in MMA and are a non-believer in ghosts.

And if you do post such a clip, I won't be watching it. :scared14:

Don't put too much confidence in me...

We would both be in trouble!

[FORD]

Rob Zombie would probably buy something like that hoping it had some spirits attached. And if anything weird happened as a result, he's got a movie plot. Although my own experience with poor old "Harvey" wasn't exactly "Poultergeist IV" material.

[hideyoursheep]

Rob would probably try and have sex with it, then release the video!

[hideyoursheep]

Like Scooby Doo and Shaggy?

ZOINKS!

At least you don't believe in ghosts, so you have that going for you.

I personally don't have any hard evidence that they do exist, nor have I had any experiences myself...

Whether or not there is an afterlife of some sort will have to enter into the discussion here. That is something that I can believe in after witnessing a certain occurrence.

But I've yet to experience anyone coming back to visit.

I hope that makes sense.

[Redballjets88]

I don't know if I believe, but I would like to have something paranormal happen to/around me. I think it could really change a persons outlook.

[hideyoursheep]

I don't know if I believe, but I would like to have something paranormal happen to/around me. I think it could really change a persons outlook.

Well if it doesn't, you're probably already dead!

[blonddgirl777]

YIKES! This is why I do not buy antique or pre-owned anything. I don't know who owned it before me, and maybe the previous owner wants it back...

Back in 1995, my husband and I went to an antique exposition in San-Fransisco. I absolutely LOVE antiques.

A lot of old Americana and some European objects were exposed. We came to a booth that was from pre-civil war. Some articles you could actually touch...
I grabed this collar made of thick brown leather with a little plaid bow and a carved gold medal on it. It really looked like a dog collar.
As I held it in my hands, I felt a strange vibe going through my spine. Some chills and sadness, weird and not really understandable.
Without thinking further, I quickly let the thing fall on the table. Then, the rep. told me it was a slave collar that had been kept in a wealthy family from the southern U.S.
I looked at my husband and told him': "Look at that... All the sweat and blood that must have poored on that object... I feel bad... Let's go..."

It was one experience I could have done without!

[FORD]

Back in 1995, my husband and I went to an antique exposition in San-Fransisco. I absolutely LOVE antiques.

A lot of old Americana and some European objects were exposed. We came to a booth that was from pre-civil war. Some articles you could actually touch...
I grabed this collar made of thick brown leather with a little plaid bow and a carved gold medal on it. It really looked like a dog collar.
As I held it in my hands, I felt a strange vibe going through my spine. Some chills and sadness, weird and not really understandable.
Without thinking further, I quickly let the thing fall on the table. Then, the rep. told me it was a slave collar that had been kept in a wealthy family from the southern U.S.
I looked at my husband and told him': "Look at that... All the sweat and blood that must have poored on that object... I feel bad... Let's go..."

It was one experience I could have done without!

I'd hate to think that the poor ghost of some long dead slave was still bound to the same chains that kept him prisoner in life

I don't know how I'd react to seeing something like that. If I could afford to buy it, I probably would.... just to burn the damn thing. I'm not opposed to it being a museum piece somewhere, so it can be used in a historical context, but I'm not sure about selling something like that as an "antique".

[Dr. Love]

I don't know if I believe, but I would like to have something paranormal happen to/around me. I think it could really change a persons outlook.

Gauging from many of my personal experiences, I think you really would not like to have something like that happen to you. Depending on the type and severity it can be terrifying in the extreme. I had a friend say the same thing, stay with us (many times) and eventually come to regret that statement. He never stayed with us again.