Toyota: "Oh What a Feeling!" (We're Fucked!)

[ELVIS]

The cars in question don't have a cable actuated throttle control, mr mechanic...

BTW, there is word that sounds like there, but it means something entirely different...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

THEIR cars with cables stuck would still be able to slow with brakes applied and placed in nuetral. their company knew their cable operated cars could still be slowed.

[ELVIS]

Hear, their and everiewear...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Hear, their and everiewear...

write

[Sorcerer]

The cars in question don't have a cable actuated throttle control, mr mechanic...

BTW, there is word that sounds like there, but it means something entirely different...

I didn't say they had cable actuated throttles now did I? You just assumed! Which has now made an ass out of you and me!

As for the grammer I didn't realize my posts would be marked!

[Sorcerer]

THEIR cars with cables stuck would still be able to slow with brakes applied and placed in nuetral. their company knew their cable operated cars could still be slowed.

Brakes should in theory always be able to over power an engine, this of course may not be true on every car, especially a V8 car with undersized brakes. Other than the go ol Crown Vic there aren't too many of those types of car being built anymore... A car bouncing off the rev limiter can still be shifted into neutral!

[Sorcerer]

Maybe Toyota will start importing some "REAL" trucks again! You know this could be a good thing! Thats a picture off the toyota Australia website. Land Cruiser 70 Series! Still loved pre 2007 bodies the best, but after working on some of these truck I must say they stand alone as one of the worlds last really tough, reliable civilian trucks. Offered in diesel and petrol models, with various engine sizes depending on your budget and location!

[chefcraig]

The best part about this entire thing is any cable actuated throttle, can technically stick in the open position if the return spring becomes broken or rusted or if the throttle cable itself becomes rusted. It's probably happened to A LOT of people over the years on various makes and models... It isn't a common thing you see everyday but, I have seen more than a handful...

From the late seventies to the early/mid nineties I worked for the automotive aftermarket. One of the most serious auto recalls during that time concerned car maker Audi, with consumers complaining of a sudden acceleration syndrome very similar to what is described in the Toyota debacle of today. Now there was an inherent amount of falsehood going on (from phony claims by car owners to a made up story on 60 Minutes), but what things boiled down to were one of three possibilities:

1. The throttle cable hanging up as you described
2. The placement of the gas and brake pedals too close together
3. The floor mats sliding onto the gas pedal.

Only the first could realistically be blamed on the manufacturer, as the other two came down to the individual user. Nonetheless, somewhere between 1982 and (I think) 1990, Audi wound up moving the pedals further apart on customer's cars, plus installing a system requiring the brake pedal be depressed in order to shift out of neutral, much like a neutral safety switch prevents a car from starting in gear. This second step seems like overkill, as common sense would dictate that the driver do so anyway.

The thing is, it took Audi decades to get beyond this and restore it's name among the public. You really have to wonder how disastrous this will be for Toyota in the long run, as the company owns a far greater share of culpability than Audi ever did.

[Sorcerer]

Totally agree with ya there

check this out
Toyota: A Japanese Perspective -- Seeking Alpha

[ELVIS]

You obviously know nothing about Toyota or the case against the auto maker...

[ELVIS]

I didn't say they had cable actuated throttles now did I?

Yes you did, ass...

As for the grammer I didn't realize my posts would be marked!

Grammer ??

LMAO!

Get a brain, MORAN!

[ELVIS]

Totally agree with ya there

check this out
Toyota: A Japanese Perspective -- Seeking Alpha

Pure rubbish!

[Seshmeister]

The things that people find to argue about on here...

[ELVIS]

Yeah well, what else is there to do here...

I'm just pointing out the fact that mr. wizard is full of bologna...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The things that people find to argue about on here...

i disagree with you:tongue0011: