Robin Williams commits Suicide

[ELVIS]

The churches are corrupt...

That's why people don't go...

Chuck Baldwin has a real church and is a real man of God...

Liberty Fellowship

[cadaverdog]

Education is improving things is most 1st world countries at least but yeah we are stuck with it worldwide for our lifetimes at least.

Even in the US there has been a huge rise in the non religious, especially among the young.

I'd say about 10% of the people I know attend church.

It sounds like you'd approve of a society where there is no freedom to believe whatever you want to believe or share those beliefs with others.

[ELVIS]

Because he thinks he's somehow part of the power structure...

[Seshmeister]

It sounds like you'd approve of a society where there is no freedom to believe whatever you want to believe or share those beliefs with others.

Depends what the beliefs are.

Too much respect is given to beliefs I'm all about the freedom to say that a belief is wrong and why.

Religions don't stand up to scrutiny and that's why the people that run them don't like questions being asked.

[Seshmeister]

Because he thinks he's somehow part of the power structure...

Hahaha

Maybe you should add me to your list of FEARS...?

[ELVIS]

And I'm all about the real freedom and liberty that only comes from faith in Jesus Christ, AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!!

You're a SAD SHELL OF A HUMAN BEING...

[cadaverdog]

I like going to church.

I don't but I don't have a problem with you going if that's what floats your boat. I went to church once or twice after I turned 18. I lived in a hippy commune with Jesus Freaks for awhile but they believed you should worship in a one to one basis instead of a group thing. They would discuss their beliefs with each other but not in a formal service type setting. They let me stay with them during the week for a little while so I wouldn't have to drive 150 miles round trip by myself after my brother got a better job. I just crashed there monday through friday. Most of the time it was monday through thursday. One of the members of group worked with me. We called him Wolfman at work. He was brother Chris at the commune. They didn't force their beliefs on me but they suggested I change my ways on a regular basis.

[ELVIS]

What's wrong with that ??

maybe you should have listened...

[FORD]

And I'm all about the real freedom and liberty that only comes from faith in Jesus Christ, AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!!

You're a SAD SHELL OF A HUMAN BEING...

Seriously..... all the fucking hate and rage you have posted here over the last 6 months or so. All the "******" stuff. All the anti-semitic/white nationalist/christian identity nonsense. All the over the top anger..... it doesn't sound like somebody who has found "true freedom in Jesus Christ".

Shit, you even yell at HIM when He posts here!

There's an old saying.... damned if I can remember who originated it, but I think it was some well known preacher of the 17th century or so....

If religion has done nothing for your temper, how has it done anything for your soul?

[ELVIS]

What temper ??

[DLR Bridge]

Well, that certainly clarifies the picture. Not a good future to contemplate for anybody, let alone someone already dealing with severe depression...

There's a little clarification, I s'pose. Not to belittle him or claim cowardliness, but I can't help but think of people of all ages, primarily kids, laid up in hospitals with terminal illnesses that spend the final days of their soon-to-be cut short lives, hoping a Dr. walks in with a miracle cure. They would most certainly switch their ills for his. Sure, Parkinson's sucks, but a lot of things suck. I know. The phrase "however bad you have it, someone always has it worse" is no cure for depression. If only things were that simple.

[jacksmar]

There's a little clarification, I s'pose. Not to belittle him or claim cowardliness, but I can't help but think of people of all ages, primarily kids, laid up in hospitals with terminal illnesses that spend the final days of their soon-to-be cut short lives, hoping a Dr. walks in with a miracle cure. They would most certainly switch their ills for his. Sure, Parkinson's sucks, but a lot of things suck. I know. The phrase "however bad you have it, someone always has it worse" is no cure for depression. If only things were that simple.

Could not have said it better.

[Seshmeister]

There's a little clarification, I s'pose. Not to belittle him or claim cowardliness, but I can't help but think of people of all ages, primarily kids, laid up in hospitals with terminal illnesses that spend the final days of their soon-to-be cut short lives, hoping a Dr. walks in with a miracle cure. They would most certainly switch their ills for his. Sure, Parkinson's sucks, but a lot of things suck. I know. The phrase "however bad you have it, someone always has it worse" is no cure for depression. If only things were that simple.

Your post assumes the person is thinking rationally. The whole thing about clinical depression is that you don't.

[DLR Bridge]

Your post assumes the person is thinking rationally. The whole thing about clinical depression is that you don't.

Understood, but I'm under the impression he'd received treatment through the years and he seemed too intelligent and well grounded to be cast off as completely irrational with his thoughts. I know it's complicated. That's why I ended the post as I did. None of us are in inside anyone else's head but our own.

[Seshmeister]

I think when we hear the phrase clinical depression most of us we compare it to a time when we were unhappy or grieving for a loved one and that's not what it's like by all accounts.

I started to understand it better after watching a few things with Stephen Fry who suffers from a similar condition and like Williams clever, successful, much loved and funny.

This was recorded in 2010, he had an unsuccessful suicide attempt last year...