R.I.P. The United States of America

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by wraytw
How's that for nuggets of wisdom?

it's like gw said. sometimes you have to be decisive.

[FORD]

So why is FORD necroposting this thread in 2011?

Because I goddamn fucking TOLD YOU SO, that's why!

Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election
By John Thorpe


Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic, they will shake their fists and mutter one name: George Effin' Bush.

Ironically, it won't be for any of the things that liberals have been harping on the Bush Administration, either during or after his term in office. Sure, misguided tax cuts that destroyed the surplus, and lax regulations that doomed the economy, and two amazingly awful wars in deserts half a world away are all terrible, empire-sapping events. But they pale in comparison to what it appears the Republican Party did to get President Bush re-elected in 2004.

"A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio's 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush,"according to Bob Fitrakis, columnist at http://www.freepress.org and co-counsel in the litigation and investigation.

If you recall, Ohio was the battleground state that provided George Bush with the electoral votes needed to win re-election. Had Senator John Kerry won Ohio's electoral votes, he would have been elected instead.

Evidence from the filing suggests that Republican operatives — including the private computer firms hired to manage the electronic voting data — were compromised.

Fitrakis isn't the only attorney involved in pursuing the truth in this matter. Cliff Arnebeck, the lead attorney in the King Lincoln case, exchanged emails with IT security expert Stephen Spoonamore. He asked Spoonamore whether or not SmarTech had the capability to "input data" and thus alter the results of Ohio's 2004 election. His response sent a chill up my spine.

"Yes. They would have had data input capacities. The system might have been set up to log which source generated the data but probably did not," Spoonamore said. In case that seems a bit too technical and "big deal" for you, consider what he was saying. SmarTech, a private company, had the ability in the 2004 election to add or subtract votes without anyone knowing they did so.

The filing today shows how, detailing the computer network system's design structure, including a map of how the data moved from one unit to the next. Right smack in the middle of that structure? Inexplicably, it was SmarTech.

Spoonamore (keep in mind, he is the IT expert here) concluded from the architectural maps of the Ohio 2004 election reporting system that, "SmarTech was a man in the middle. In my opinion they were not designed as a mirror, they were designed specifically to be a man in the middle."

A "man in the middle" is not just an accidental happenstance of computing. It is a deliberate computer hacking setup, one where the hacker sits, literally, in the middle of the communication stream, intercepting and (when desired, as in this case) altering the data. It's how hackers swipe your credit card number or other banking information. This is bad.

A mirror site, which SmarTech was allegedly supposed to be, is simply a backup site on the chance that the main configuration crashes. Mirrors are a good thing.

Until now, the architectural maps and contracts from the Ohio 2004 election were never made public, which may indicate that the entire system was designed for fraud. In a previous sworn affidavit to the court, Spoonamore declared: "The SmarTech system was set up precisely as a King Pin computer used in criminal acts against banking or credit card processes and had the needed level of access to both county tabulators and Secretary of State computers to allow whoever was running SmarTech computers to decide the output of the county tabulators under its control."

Spoonamore also swore that "...the architecture further confirms how this election was stolen. The computer system and SmarTech had the correct placement, connectivity, and computer experts necessary to change the election in any manner desired by the controllers of the SmarTech computers."

SmarTech was part of three computer companies brought in to manage the elections process for Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a Republican. The other two were Triad and GovTech Solutions. All three companies have extensive ties to the Republican party and Republican causes.

In fact, GovTech was run by Mike Connell, who was a fiercely religious conservative who got involved in politics to push a right-wing social agenda. He was Karl Rove's IT go-to guy, and was alleged to be the IT brains behind the series of stolen elections between 2000 and 2004.

Connell was outed as the one who stole the 2004 election by Spoonamore, who, despite being a conservative Republican himself, came forward to blow the whistle on the stolen election scandal. Connell gave a deposition on the matter, but stonewalled. After the deposition, and fearing perjury/obstruction charges for withholding information, Connell expressed an interest in testifying further as to the extent of the scandal.

"He made it known to the lawyers, he made it known to reporter Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story, that he wanted to talk. He was scared. He wanted to talk. And I say that he had pretty good reason to be scared," said Mark Crispin Miller, who wrote a book on the scandal.

Connell was so scared for his security that he asked for protection from the attorney general, then Attorney General Michael Mukasey. Connell told close friends that he was expecting to get thrown under the bus by the Rove team, because Connell had evidence linking the GOP operative to the scandal and the stolen election, including knowledge of where Rove's missing emails disappeared to.

Before he could testify, Connell died in a plane crash.

Harvey Wasserman, who wrote a book on the stolen 2004 election, explained that the combination of computer hacking, ballot destruction, and the discrepancy between exit polling (which showed a big Kerry win in Ohio) and the "real" vote tabulation, all point to one answer: the Republicans stole the 2004 election.

"The 2004 election was stolen. There is absolutely no doubt about it. A 6.7% shift in exit polls does not happen by chance. And, you know, so finally, we have irrefutable confirmation that what we were saying was true and that every piece of the puzzle in the Ohio 2004 election was flawed," Wasserman said.

Mark Crispin Miller also wrote a book on the subject of stolen elections, and focused on the 2004 Ohio presidential election. Here is what he had to say about it.

There were three phases of chicanery. First, there was a pre-election period, during which the Secretary of State in Ohio, Ken Blackwell, was also co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio, which is in itself mind-boggling, engaged in all sorts of bureaucratic and legal tricks to cut down on the number of people who could register, to limit the usability of provisional ballots. It was really a kind of classic case of using the letter of the law or the seeming letter of the law just to disenfranchise as many people as possible.

On Election Day, there was clearly a systematic undersupply of working voting machines in Democratic areas, primarily inner city and student towns, you know, college towns. And the Conyers people found that in some of the most undersupplied places, there were scores of perfectly good voting machines held back and kept in warehouses, you know, and there are many similar stories to this. And other things happened that day.

After Election Day, there is explicit evidence that a company called Triad, which manufactures all of the tabulators, the vote-counting tabulators that were used in Ohio in the last election, was systematically going around from county to county in Ohio and subverting the recount, which was court ordered and which never did take place. The Republicans will say to this day, 'There was a recount in Ohio, and we won that.' That's a lie, one of many, many staggering lies. There was never a recount.

And now, it seems, there never will be.

[Unchainme]

So, when exactly were these machines hacked again?

Having worked a few elections with the BOE around here it's mighty difficult to pull off unless the poll workers are not doing their due-diligence. They're checked several times during the day as well. If you'd like, I'd be more than willing to answer any questions about the process. I for one, am certainly not a BushCo operative . If I was, I'd be attending Yale, and not a school that CSN&Y wrote a song about.

[Nitro Express]

You only sit in a shanty if you give your authority over to others and expect them to take care of you. We trusted the politicians to take care of us but they only took care of themselves. I think it's time WE THE PEOPLE take our authority back and remind the politicians they work for us. I love how they take OUR money and then call it an entitlement when they throw us a crumb back.

These assholes love us to argue this left right thing but the truth is they both have screwed us all and until we stop this petty arguing over who screwed who, nothing is going to change.

[SunisinuS]

So, when exactly were these machines hacked again?

Having worked a few elections with the BOE around here it's mighty difficult to pull off unless the poll workers are not doing their due-diligence. They're checked several times during the day as well. If you'd like, I'd be more than willing to answer any questions about the process. I for one, am certainly not a BushCo operative . If I was, I'd be attending Yale, and not a school that CSN&Y wrote a song about.

You a computer Software and Hardware tech?


No bid contracts is how.

[FORD]

So, when exactly were these machines hacked again?

Having worked a few elections with the BOE around here it's mighty difficult to pull off unless the poll workers are not doing their due-diligence. They're checked several times during the day as well. If you'd like, I'd be more than willing to answer any questions about the process. I for one, am certainly not a BushCo operative . If I was, I'd be attending Yale, and not a school that CSN&Y wrote a song about.

Did you read the article above?

It's not about hacking the individual DIEBOLD machines at the polling place (although that would also be easy enough to do, given the machine's vulnerabilities with the memory cards)

It's the tabulators that are compromised. And once you get past all the shit that Blackwell set up to make this easier, what you are left with, is essentially a Microsoft Access database, which is easy enough to hack, as shown here by the man who SHOULD have been elected President in 2004.....

[ThrillsNSpills]

I hear you Ford, but if both are skull and bonesmen. What difference would if have made?

[ThrillsNSpills]

it, not if.

YEEAAAAHHHHHH!

[ThrillsNSpills]

Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushs have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." --- George Bush Sr. 1992

[fifth element]

Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushs have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." --- George Bush Sr. 1992

and in that admittance, itself...probably should be.

[Satan]

If Poppy only knew what awaited him here in Hell. It won't be much longer till he finds out.......

[knuckleboner]

given the other races in ohio that year, it's not suspicious that bush won 51-49, it's suspicious that it was that close...

[Unchainme]

given the other races in ohio that year, it's not suspicious that bush won 51-49, it's suspicious that it was that close...

Ohio's an interesting mix to be sure.

You got...the southern ohioans who are mainly conservative wannabe west virginians/kentuckyians. A few union friendly voters mixed in due to a bit of the Rustbelt seeping in, in places like Steubenville.

Then you got..my region which is kind of a toss up depending on which part of the region you're in. Very Union-Friendly near Cleveland, hence why Kucinich really is never in danger come election time. But in the 'burbs you got your traditional middle class white conservatives.

Stark County (just to the south of me) is an interesting little bell-weather of how the election goes. Went Obama in '08, and Bush in back to back years.

[Satan]

I hear you Ford, but if both are skull and bonesmen. What difference would if have made?

Dean isn't Skull & Bones. Which is why the election was stolen in Ohio, but it was actually LOST in Iowa.

Sincerely,

Satan T. Devil
Former Chairman of Devils for Dean, 2004

[Dr. Love]

Sesh, you have taken note of how the liberal american mind works i'm sure.
Bush was not the person who divided this nation the way it is now, and if you have listened to many Democrat interviews today you would know that they are already planning to throw wrenches in every damn thing they can for the next 4 years. (That's Crazy Stuff)

And when it comes time to offer up some judges, you will see yet more good people fillibustered due to political posturing and down right obstructionist attitudes.

Looking at where things went since 2004 it almost makes you think those days were when sanity and progress were still possible.