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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    Wisconsin Schools to bring back Creationism

    Wisconsin district to teach more than evolution
    Saturday, November 6, 2004 Posted: 9:36 PM EST (0236 GMT)

    GRANTSBURG, Wisconsin (AP) -- School officials have revised the science curriculum to allow the teaching of creationism, prompting an outcry from more than 300 educators who urged that the decision be reversed.

    Members of Grantsburg's school board believed that a state law governing the teaching of evolution was too restrictive. The science curriculum "should not be totally inclusive of just one scientific theory," said Joni Burgin, superintendent of the district of 1,000 students in northwest Wisconsin.

    Last month, when the board examined its science curriculum, language was added calling for "various models/theories" of origin to be incorporated.

    The decision provoked more than 300 biology and religious studies faculty members to write a letter last week urging the Grantsburg board to reverse the policy. It follows a letter sent previously by 43 deans at Wisconsin public universities.

    "Insisting that teachers teach alternative theories of origin in biology classes takes time away from real learning, confuses some students and is a misuse of limited class time and public funds," said Don Waller, a botanist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

    Wisconsin law mandates that evolution be taught, but school districts are free to create their own curricular standards, said Joe Donovan, a spokesman for the state Department of Public Instruction.

    There have been scattered efforts around the nation for other school boards to adopt similar measures. Last month the Dover Area School Board in Pennsylvania voted to require the teaching of alternative theories to evolution, including "intelligent design" -- the idea that life is too complex to have developed without a creator.

    The state education board in Kansas was heavily criticized in 1999 when it deleted most references to evolution. The decision was reversed in 2001.

    In March, the Ohio Board of Education narrowly approved a lesson plan that some critics contended opens the door to teaching creationism.

    Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

    Yeah!! Our children will learn how God created the word in seven days, literally interpreting the Bible! Praise Jesus! You were saying Bush supporters are not hicks?
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    Evolution is false..

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49563

      #3
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Evolution is false..
      You are insane.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59560

        #4
        Both evolution and creationism are properly described as "theories", since there is no way to PROVE either one.

        God doesn't come down to Earth for a command performance and create something.

        On the other hand, nobody has ever witnessed one species evolve into another either.

        Sure, there are changes within a species, adaptability issues and all that, but no evidence whatsoever that man came from monkeys.


        ....well except for him anyway.
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        • Sgt Schultz
          Commando
          • Mar 2004
          • 1270

          #5
          Nickdfresh don't get your panties in a wad. It's one very small school district.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49563

            #6
            Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
            Nickdfresh don't get your panties in a wad. It's one very small school district.
            That's how it starts.

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            • Sgt Schultz
              Commando
              • Mar 2004
              • 1270

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              That's how it starts.
              I can guarantee you it's not going to take hold in Wisconsin.

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              • DLR'sCock
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Jan 2004
                • 2937

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Evolution is false..

                This explains everything.

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                • DLR'sCock
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2937

                  #9
                  How can this be taught when this clearly violates separation of Church and State? Creationism is not an alternative SCIENTIFIC theory, it is merely Old Testament writings...but we all know this.

                  I could see perhaps that within a Theology class that Creationism be taught, but if it is a theological class, then differing viewpoints from all "religions" should be also inserted into said class...of course this should be put int the context of a Sociological and Historical perspective...


                  Creationism is not Science...

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Both evolution and creationism are properly described as "theories", since there is no way to PROVE either one.

                    God doesn't come down to Earth for a command performance and create something.

                    On the other hand, nobody has ever witnessed one species evolve into another either.

                    Sure, there are changes within a species, adaptability issues and all that, but no evidence whatsoever that man came from monkeys.


                    Damn......I think I actually agree with FORD on this one.

                    Let the school districts teach BOTH theories and let the students WITH the parents decide in which to believe.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • Ally_Kat
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7612

                      #11
                      You aren't the only one triple B.

                      Seriously, why should we restrict what is taught? I think they should be open to all explinations, as I believe people should try to learn about as many religions and lack of religions as possible, so that they can decide for themselves what they believe to be the truth.
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                      • Cathedral
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6621

                        #12
                        Ally, It is nothing more than persecution.
                        The Anti-God types aren't concerned about the education the kids get. they are concerned with how much control they can have over our kids by filling their heads with garbage no believer can tolerate.

                        I dealt with it for one year in public schools with my youngest daughter, and had enough of it.
                        That is why she'll never set foot in a public school again.

                        There isn't a public school on earth that can beat the quality of education she is getting.

                        Personally, i don't think creation or evolution should be taught in school.
                        That is something for the family and church to teach.
                        I don't want educators dictating to me what my child should be learning.

                        Teach her to read, write and do math. The rest is my responsibility as it is with all parents.

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                        • Ally_Kat
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7612

                          #13
                          How about this -- make an elective that teaches all the various ways people of different beliefs and races view creation. There are enough to fill an entire semester, and if gone deeply enough into it, an entire year.

                          And not only do you cover all the creation stories so that the children are well-informed and can go on to think for themselves, but it's an elective so the children choose whether or not they want to take it.
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                          • Ally_Kat
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7612

                            #14
                            I also think they should do that with religion. Have a class -- again, elective -- that teaches the different religions of the world, what they belief, customs, all that type of thing.

                            And as an added bonus, because they are educated about it, they are more likely to be more tolerant of others who do not share the same belief structure and they do. There will be an understanding. And maybe even a step towards peace.

                            I know, I'm being a bit of a daydreamer. But I seriously think it should be an option for those who want to learn about things like this. I know here in NYC there isn't. Not until college, sometimes.
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                            • diamond den™

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ally_Kat
                              How about this -- make an elective that teaches all the various ways people of different beliefs and races view creation. There are enough to fill an entire semester, and if gone deeply enough into it, an entire year.

                              And not only do you cover all the creation stories so that the children are well-informed and can go on to think for themselves, but it's an elective so the children choose whether or not they want to take it.
                              They did that in the High School I went too..........

                              It wasn't very useful.

                              People eventually make up their own minds what to believe and what not top believe.

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