DaveIsKing WAS WRONG!!! Bush Sucks!

[Denny]

Originally posted by FORD
Hell yes I could.

Sure about that?????

[FORD]

Considering 42 other guys have done better than him, it wouldn't be that difficult.

[DaveIsKing]

Woodrow W. Bush: SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD...

Ridiculous!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Denny
Could you run the Country any better, Fuck tard????

97 posts and not ONE vote?

Hard to imagine with stellar posts such as this.

dont fear education. Try some.

And the answer to your rhetorical question is YES.

now go have someone look up the word rhetorical for you

[Denny]

Originally posted by FORD
Considering 42 other guys have done better than him, it wouldn't be that difficult.

Ok then, Smart Ass what would YOU do?????

[Denny]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
97 posts and not ONE vote?

Hard to imagine with stellar posts such as this.

dont fear education. Try some.

And the answer to your rhetorical question is YES.

now go have someone look up the word rhetorical for you

Go fuck yourself

[ODShowtime]

Surprise, gw bullshitted people!

"An amnesty by any other name is still an amnesty, regardless of what the White House wants to call it," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican and chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.
"Their amnesty plan was dead on arrival when they sent it to the Congress in January, and if they send the same pig with lipstick back to Congress next January, it will suffer the same fate," he said.

[DaveIsKing]

As much as I hate to admit it---You're Right, ODShowtime.

Goddamnit, you're right.

[conmee]

Gentlemen,

Actually, this is a coup for the BCE. You see, being in his final term, Mssr. Bush can roll out a few agenda items, that on the surface, seem to be incongruous in the context of Republican beliefs and initiatives.

With regard to amnesty or a program that moves down that path, the BCE has just won the hearts of a majority of Latino/Hispanic voters (a much more active and larger segment of the voting population than the blacks or Asians). With both George from Texas and Jeb in Florida (border states with significant Latino voting implications--and with Arnold in California--can you imagine if another 5 million lettuce/grape pickers in Cali were legal and had voted Republican?!?!) , this is exactly the kind of message that will give the Republicans a stronghold in a minority voting segment. Doesn't matter that it will go nowhere. The fact that many illegals, and their LEGALLY resident family members will look to the BCE as proponents and protectors of Latino folks is a stroke of genius!!!! lmao And just to show the Latino community that the BCE really CARES.... the BCE puts a Latino in CHARGE of the national security agenda....

Welcome aboard, Senor Alberto Gonzales. Como esta usted? Muy bien, muchas gracias!

lmao

Lastly, 99% of the illegal Latinos in America WANT to be legal residents, but the process isn't exactly a sure thing, as many will be forced back to their country of origin and go through a somewhat arduous and uncertain process in achieving legal status. So the idea of amnesty is, of course, near and dear to so many illegals' hearts. lol... And when they are OFFICIAL in this country, the tax revenue from their jobs will pay for the services they use and the tax breaks the BCE gives to the rich.

More breaks for the rich on the (wet)backs of the Latino community!!! A stroke of genius!!!! lmao

Seig Oil!!!!



Icon.

[DaveIsKing]

You know, conmee, unfortunately that makes a lot of sense.

[ODShowtime]

Hell's yeah, just like when gw makes anti-abortion or anti-gay marriage laws that will never pass congress. But they are talking points for the really stupid sheep.

DAVEISKING, gw has a lot of political capital left to spend, so strap in tight...

[aesop]

That stupid, moronic mindset just cracks me up. Another total crock of liberal BS. 20% of the US population pays OVER 80% of the fed tax already. You guys have bought the BS line that rich people don't pay enough taxes. That's BS. Anyone with a job pays taxes. The tax code is already Progressive. That the hell else do you want? How do you give tax breaks to people who don't pay taxes in the first place??

'Rich' people also probably pay 50% more in sales taxes, and 100% more in luxury taxes. They also give you a job (assuming your not on the Government's nipple). Finally, they SAVE money in banks, etc., so the bank has money for you to get a loan to buy your house. So drop this groundless 'class warefare' bullshit. It's lame, and anyone who has ever taken an Econ 101 class can dis-prove it.

[DaveIsKing]

I am very disheartened with this Illegal Amnesty shit. I do not embrace liberal philosophy, I am more of a Randian libertarian. But, this bullshit pisses me off.

And he just named a Latino as ATTORNEY GENERAL...yay...W...you fucking cocksucker. And guess who are the majority of ILLEGALS... hmmmm....why don't he just name a PALESTINIAN or an AFGHAN to head up HOMELAND SECURITY.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch whose flame
Is imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands your storied pomp!" cries she with silent lips.

"Give me your tired your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


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Emma Lazarus (1849-1887)



I am against closing off the borders, and i personally think it is a good thing to give illegals a way in which they can provide for their families a better income than they can have in Mexico.
It is a step in the right direction if we can document all who enter this country from foreign lands.
Family Values do not stop at our border, and they are eager to work those jobs which most Americans refuse to work.

If you really think about it, this does go a long way in securing our borders from those who cross it. If they want a job, then they must register in the work force program, and if it works they way i assume it will, it will be a crime for an employer to employ an alien without the proper documents to prove they are in fact eligible to work in the United States.

Bush did interviews during the campaign on this subject, so i don't see where he "downplayed it"...This comes as no surprise to me, and i see it as a step in the right direction.

You cannot fault anyone for seeking a better quality of life.
This would be a huge leap in decreasing the number of illegals crossing the border who we would otherwise not know are here.

Think about it, If so many people are here illegally, don't you think that if they had a way to be tracked it would also help by decreasing the number of questionable people roaming our cities?

I think it would make it easier to spot those who try to fly into our country under the radar, with intent to attack us.

It wouldn't solve the whole problem of course, but it does fall in line of what this country has stood for for over 200 years.
And knowing who is here from other lands is much better than not knowing.
Coming to America should not be a crime, and for those who wish to remain Mexican citizens, they should have a way to come and go without being deamed a criminal.

The Statue of Liberty has been a long standing invitation to immigrants to seek a better life, and you can't invite people to your home for dinner and then make them eat outside while you sit at the dining room table.

Look, working with those who seek to work here is far better than placing soldiers on the borders that will surely lead to people getting killed when their only desire is a better life for their families and themselves.

I agree. I just wish there was a way to minimize the security risk like the possibility of al-Qaida members walking in using the Mexican workers as cover.

[DaveIsKing]

Too bad these wonderful dreams aren't applicable to reality.