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  • Big Train
    Full Member Status

    • Apr 2004
    • 4013

    #46
    Where to start on this. First off, Angel and I have been going back and forth on this and my aim is to show her how shortsighted (which she usually is) her "shut off the taps" comments are. The nature of our relationships are far more complex than that and in order to "shut off the taps" all of what you just cited would go out the window. Whether you want to call it trade or aid, same difference really. We buy from you so as not to use up our own supply. We could just as easily buy more from other countries.

    The military thing, how do you guage it since it is an indirect cost? The only way I can guage is to estimate what you guys would ACTUALLY need to defend a country your size and subtract it from how much we spend annually (which obviously protects you...NORAD alone is billions).

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    • Big Train
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2004
      • 4013

      #47
      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
      And we'd have a large, undefended northern border! Isn't one huge, porous, undefended border enough?
      Umm, Nick, wtf? Our northern border is every bit as porous as our southern border..

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49567

        #48
        Originally posted by Big Train
        Umm, Nick, wtf? Our northern border is every bit as porous as our southern border..
        Not really, unlike Mexico, Canada is a fairly semi-secure, stable nation.

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        • Big Train
          Full Member Status

          • Apr 2004
          • 4013

          #49
          Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49567

            #50
            Originally posted by Big Train
            Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.
            Most of them probably don't need either, they could capture a freighter and land right in NY or Boston harbor. Rumor has it, that's what the terrorists are actually trying to do because Mexican immigrant workers really don't like terrorists anymore than you or I. Nor does the RCMP.

            But living near Buffalo, NY and "the Peace Bridge," I am well aware how important trade with Canada is. If you don't believe me, come to Buffalo some time and pull over on the Rte. 198 and watch the backup of tractor trailers that sometimes occurs on a Monday morning.

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #51
              Originally posted by Big Train
              Yea who wouldn't possibly be harboring terrorists who made want to head south. Only those dirty, unstable Mexicans could possibly have terrorists....stop yourself.
              I visited Canada once and stayed at the apartment of an Iranian-Canadian. He told me about the missiles he heard landing near him during the Iran-Iraq war. They have another name for Canada: "Canadistan."

              There are tons of Muslims (his family was Christian in Iran) in Canada, it's similar to the UK in that fashion.
              gnaw on it

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              • Big Train
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                • Apr 2004
                • 4013

                #52
                Yea and the UK Muslim population has yet to give us ANY Terrorists..

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                • ODShowtime
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5812

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Big Train
                  Yea and the UK Muslim population has yet to give us ANY Terrorists..
                  Yeah. They're happy up there. Dude was a scientist in College for chemistry or some shit. Showed me better hospitality than anyone except my family, ever.

                  I'm watching the Sarstock DVD right now. That's probably why I can remember it so clearly.
                  gnaw on it

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Angel
                    Don't worry about it honey, he's called me the same thing I'm sure. His small mind can't comprehend bi-lingualism.

                    Just remember, if it wasn't for the USA, our country wouldn't have united the French and English like they did. Even now, we are joining together in our stance against US Foreign policy, and it is helping to re-unite the French and English, and re-kindle our ties.

                    Viva La Canada!
                    You are crazier than a shit house mouse.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • Diamondjimi
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • May 2004
                      • 12086

                      #55
                      Originally posted by franksters
                      At least by opposing to war we prevent things like 9/11 to happen here, believe me i traval a lot and anywhere around the world people respect and love canada, we also got voted best place to live on earth i think 4 years in a row,

                      as for the usa it's unfortunate but people usually hate you and in every country they have a name for u.s citizens isn't that funny!!

                      i'd rather have a canadian flag on my back than a us one, it usually get me favors! instead of trouble.

                      president bush is a moron and an hypocrite, he is driving your country down: money wise, health wise, military wise, he is making enemies for us everytime he speaks on an international platform, and on top of it he says they go defent the people of these country afgan irak ect.. but frankly it is just because of the gas issue: to secure your price of gas, usa don't go defend or liberate no one if they don't have some $$$$ involve...

                      why bush didn't sign kyoto : simply because he doesn't give a fuck about the world and the pollution.

                      he says he doesn't like dictator country and that the people should be free, WHY DOESN'T HE GO TO SAOUDIE ARABIA and kill those fuckers..

                      simply because usa buys 35% of it's gas and oil product from there...

                      so right now u.s.a for me stands for :united stupid assholes....
                      5 friggin stars for you brother !!!
                      Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                      • Diamondjimi
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • May 2004
                        • 12086

                        #56
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        Elvis, sticky this!

                        This friendly neighbour should be on everyone's HIT LIST!!!! Give him 5 Stars
                        5 it is neighbour !
                        Last edited by Diamondjimi; 12-04-2004, 12:39 AM.
                        Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                        • franksters
                          Veteran
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2389

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Big Train
                          Yes please....if you would be willing to shut off all that we give to you.
                          What do you give us besides headaches?????
                          SUMMER'S JUST
                          AROUND
                          THE CORNER!

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #58
                            Originally posted by franksters
                            What do you give us besides headaches?????

                            Protection and your number one trading partner. The fact that you let your armed forces decline to the state it is in now is a national shame for Canada. Just as it is for much of Europe.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • franksters
                              Veteran
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2389

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Big Train
                              Yes please....if you would be willing to shut off all that we give to you.
                              What do you give us besides headaches?????
                              Originally posted by Big Train
                              If I had the power, you'd have no military protection, no trade with us and no foreign aid of any kind....just to watch the socialist house of cards fall,.......
                              that would be good because as your grand master bush devil said 1 9 billion dollar is being traded between canada and the states everyday, so go trade this with the other surrounding country...like cuba panama
                              mexico as they have so much buying power or maybe you guys should just trade with uruguay that would be easy no need to pay them !!
                              SUMMER'S JUST
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                              THE CORNER!

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                              • franksters
                                Veteran
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2389

                                #60
                                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                                Protection and your number one trading partner. The fact that you let your armed forces decline to the state it is in now is a national shame for Canada. Just as it is for much of Europe.
                                I agree with you brian, but i think that this is where canada is going nobody wants an army overhere, we just want to be involve a little bit in peace keeping and that's it.

                                why would we need an army , if we don't get involve in war there is nothing to fear, the image of canada is respected troughout the whole wide world!
                                don,t forget we didn,t go to irak we told you NO and nothing happen to us ,so we have no army and we can say no to the usa!
                                SUMMER'S JUST
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                                THE CORNER!

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