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Originally posted by Big Train
Thanks Viv, that was a fun read and a good amount of amusement. Where to start here? Let's see..
If my calling for the US to step up efforts to lean on mexico to get their own house in order isn't conservative, I don't know what is. You can't be a monkey and just demand more cops and cages. The size of the problem is simply too large for that to be an effective solution. If you can't see that removing the incentive to come here by helping to stabilize their own economy as a huge benefit to us< YOU ARE MISSING THE REALITY of this. Take off your own rose colored cop sunglasses for a sec..
Yes I AM involved with a Mexican who parents were immigrants and are now citizens legally. They may make up 30% of violent prisoners, but who are the other 70%, which, if current math holds up, is the MAJORITY. Conquer our land and hand it over to Mexico? Put down the Mexican chronic Viv...the US OWNS Mexico. Go to any resort town down there, it ain't the germans who own it and it certainly isn't the mexicans..
As far as the voters go, check your facts. Latinos have been very quiet in the last few elections. All this talk about the "latin vote" is generally a lot of bullshit. I live in the LA area, Im in the heart of all these problems you speak of. Outside of the MECHA types, most latinos I know are conservative hardworking types, who just want to be left alone like anyone else and don't want a handout. You read way to much bullshit. Come over here and jump in for a bit..I'm sure your opinion would change.
WE HAVE TO PLAY BALL IN THE GLOBAL GAME...Read and understand that. Forcing a wage system on anybody nowadays IS suicide. It's like forcing them to use outmoded technology just to keep more people employed. We are in the global game and that's it. If you feel so intense about that, make sure next time your at walmart to only buy American. I'd love to see what you actually come out of the store carrying.
Yes, I stand for the defense of the Consitution.
Thanks Viv, that was a fun read and a good amount of amusement. Where to start here? Let's see..
If my calling for the US to step up efforts to lean on mexico to get their own house in order isn't conservative, I don't know what is. You can't be a monkey and just demand more cops and cages. The size of the problem is simply too large for that to be an effective solution. If you can't see that removing the incentive to come here by helping to stabilize their own economy as a huge benefit to us< YOU ARE MISSING THE REALITY of this. Take off your own rose colored cop sunglasses for a sec..
Yes I AM involved with a Mexican who parents were immigrants and are now citizens legally. They may make up 30% of violent prisoners, but who are the other 70%, which, if current math holds up, is the MAJORITY. Conquer our land and hand it over to Mexico? Put down the Mexican chronic Viv...the US OWNS Mexico. Go to any resort town down there, it ain't the germans who own it and it certainly isn't the mexicans..
As far as the voters go, check your facts. Latinos have been very quiet in the last few elections. All this talk about the "latin vote" is generally a lot of bullshit. I live in the LA area, Im in the heart of all these problems you speak of. Outside of the MECHA types, most latinos I know are conservative hardworking types, who just want to be left alone like anyone else and don't want a handout. You read way to much bullshit. Come over here and jump in for a bit..I'm sure your opinion would change.
WE HAVE TO PLAY BALL IN THE GLOBAL GAME...Read and understand that. Forcing a wage system on anybody nowadays IS suicide. It's like forcing them to use outmoded technology just to keep more people employed. We are in the global game and that's it. If you feel so intense about that, make sure next time your at walmart to only buy American. I'd love to see what you actually come out of the store carrying.
Yes, I stand for the defense of the Consitution.
"You can't be a monkey and just demand more cops and cages. The size of the problem is simply too large for that to be an effective solution." Yes, sorry for being a simplistic law and order conservative. I should finally accept the liberal reality that every problem is “very complicated” and the solution involves violating our constitution or playing dead. Of the two cowardly options, you have chosen “playing dead.”
What I suggest is that we implement Mexico’s border policy with Guatemala. You see, the hypocritical Mexicans that protest every political movement to militarize our borders have put troops on their borders to prevent Guatemalans from entering their country and working in their haggard economy. What’s good for the goose.....
The wink and nod we are giving to Mexicans is all the incentive Mexico needs to continue its corrupt policies. Why would they change their legal and economic policies when they profit greatly from the American dollars sent to Mexico from the illegals working here. In fact, Mexicans working in the U.S. are the largest contributors to the Mexican economy. If the Mexicans that are invading our country are of such high stock, wouldn’t it be best if they stayed in Mexico and reform their government? By allowing Mexico to “let off steam” via illegal emigration, we are delaying the Mexican government’s confrontation with socioeconomic reforms. The problems south of the border will never improve if the “best and brightest” exit en masse.
"They may make up 30% of violent prisoners, but who are the other 70%, which, if current math holds up, is the MAJORITY." Like Nick, you point to other bad behavior to justify your position. Ask the people who were murdered, raped, or assaulted if their lives could have been spared by a militarized border. We have our own problems with crime, why add more fuel to the fire.
About the MEChA “bull shit,” there have been various Mexican politicians that have backed plans to democratically seize the government of their “stolen lands” and return them to Mexico. Like any threat, it’s not a huge problem at the moment, but its has the potential to spark a military crisis.
"Outside of the MECHA types, most Latinos I know are conservative hardworking types, who just want to be left alone like anyone else and don't want a handout." Yet, they continue to bleed our welfare system. I thought welfare to a Conservative was tantamount to a Cross for a Vampire. Oh wait, in the new world order of Neo-Conservatism there is no such thing as Constitutionalism. Big government for all – as long it adds another vote to the Republican party.
We don’t need to play a game that doesn’t favor the majority of U.S. businessmen and laborers. As Lincoln proclaimed and Calvin Coolidge proved, “give us a tariff and we shall be the greatest nation on Earth.” Why should we allow our highly paid and highly skilled laborers to compete with countries that induce slave labor conditions on their people? Why should businessmen that insist on product QUALITY compete with shoddy Chinese goods? We can easily return our trade deficits to surpluses if we instituted a tariff. I am not against buying imported goods, but why should we allow foreigners to access the largest and wealthiest market in the world for free? If they want to sell their products here without an access fee, then let them produce their goods here.
If Protectionism is “outmoded,” I guess Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, and every great conservative whoever lived are relics of a long dead religion. A religion replaced by the heresy of Neo-Conservatism. An ideology that is liberalism by any other name. An ideology that would sell its own people out in order to control the big government apparatus.
"Yes, I stand for the defense of the Constitution." Which one?
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