Analysis: Iraqi Insurgency Growing Larger, More Effective

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Indeed. Nick is a Neo-Liberal Socialist in favor of the US losing to the Iraqi resistance. He favors us negotiating with them.

Hey BigBlunder? How's that Rummy planned war goin'?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Hey BigBlunder? How's that Rummy planned war goin'?

It's not a matter of people now is it? Or is it? It that what it all boils down to you?

I've stated over and over again I've never been a fan of Rumsfeld, but to quote Sgt Schultz earlier in this thread:

It comes down to this – you are either in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq – or not. If you are not in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq you are in favor of reestablishing Saddam Hussein as the legitimate President of Iraq. Period. You decide which side you’re on.

Will you go on record right here and state now which side you favor as to winning? The Bush/Rumsfeld/US/Coalition side, or the Iraqi insurgent side? Hmm?

That goes for everyone else. Kentucky excluded. We all know he's the enemy.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's not a matter of people now is it? Or is it? It that what it all boils down to you?

I've stated over and over again I've never been a fan of Rumsfeld, but to quote Sgt Schultz earlier in this thread:

It comes down to this – you are either in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq – or not. If you are not in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq you are in favor of reestablishing Saddam Hussein as the legitimate President of Iraq. Period. You decide which side you’re on.

Will you go on record right here and state now which side you favor as to winning? The Bush/Rumsfeld/US/Coalition side, or the Iraqi insurgent side? Hmm?

That goes for everyone else. Kentucky excluded. We all know he's the enemy.

You are a complete moron if you believe that B.S.! This isn't WWII Big! Actually it's a lot like Vietnam.

The insurgents have already won to some extent by surviving. How are we going to win BigBag? Only the Iraqis can "win" it themselves if this debacle grows into a wider civil war.

How many kids are going to get killed so you can crow about a complete victory, I do respect your status as a veteran, but Sgt. Schultz can quit his band and pick up a rifle and head right over to Iraq (to paraphrase Knuckleboner) if he is so gung ho to win. Oh yeah, I forgot you can sit here on forum boards and tell everyone what a military hawk you are and still be a good Republican. After all it's not your limbs being blasted off or your parents getting the triangular wrapped flag.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's not a matter of people now is it? Or is it? It that what it all boils down to you?

I've stated over and over again I've never been a fan of Rumsfeld, but to quote Sgt Schultz earlier in this thread:

It comes down to this – you are either in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq – or not. If you are not in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq you are in favor of reestablishing Saddam Hussein as the legitimate President of Iraq. Period. You decide which side you’re on.

Will you go on record right here and state now which side you favor as to winning? The Bush/Rumsfeld/US/Coalition side, or the Iraqi insurgent side? Hmm?

That goes for everyone else. Kentucky excluded. We all know he's the enemy.

The old "yer either with us, or aginst us" crap.

I say FUCK your whole premise. Funny how those 2 options are it in the Rummy handbook.

We either better shut up and support this clusterfuck, or else reinstall Sadaam???????????

what a crock

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You are a complete moron if you believe that B.S.! This isn't WWII Big! Actually it's a lot like Vietnam.

The insurgents have already won to some extent by surviving. How are we going to win BigBag? Only the Iraqis can "win" it themselves if this debacle grows into a wider civil war.

How many kids are going to get killed so you can crow about a complete victory, I do respect your status as a veteran, but Sgt. Schultz can quit his band and pick up a rifle and head right over to Iraq (to paraphrase Knuckleboner) if he is so gung ho to win. Oh yeah, I forgot you can sit here on forum boards and tell everyone what a military hawk you are and still be a good Republican. After all it's not your limbs being blasted off or your parents getting the triangular wrapped flag.

So since you won’t answer the question (don’t feel too bad, most lefties won’t answer) whether you want the U.S. to win the war or not I’ll guess that you DON’T want the U.S. to win the war. Bringing up the lame “chickenhawk” argument AGAIN I see? Fine.

Since you are in favor of the U.S. LOSING in Iraq and I’m sure you were not in favor of the war to begin with, and since there were no wmd then you are in favor of a return of Saddam Hussein, and since you and other leftists believe that free speech (in favor of winning the war) has certain caveats then I say that YOUR free speech means that YOU should show us all how YOU want to go live in Iraq after Saddam has been put back in power.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
The old "yer either with us, or aginst us" crap.

I say FUCK your whole premise. Funny how those 2 options are it in the Rummy handbook.

We either better shut up and support this clusterfuck, or else reinstall Sadaam???????????

what a crock

That is exactly the point – – are you in favor of the U.S. now winning the war or not? The lefties here don’t seem to want to answer that question. Because if you are saying that since we have not found any WMD (in Iraq) that the war should not have been waged. If you believe that you then must logically accept that you are in favor of a return of Saddam Hussein.

[LoungeMachine]

Define "win"

Hold the "elections" and leave.

BTW, what kind of "elections" dont even have the NAMES of the candidates on the friggin BALLOTS?????

We've already "lost" this thing as far as Im concerned. The Art of War says....most battles are either won or lost BEFORE they're ever fought.

Please define "win" and I'll give you an honest answer. As far as Team Bush is concerned Oil flowing to us freely will be a "win"

THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT FREEDOM OR DEMOCRACY

[Knucklebones]

Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
Yes, I have been "owned" by a 19 year old who peruses conspiracy hack websites for information. Paint me as bitch slapped. What exactly is your point here? That American businessmen and politicians dealt with the German government in the 1930s? And..............?

The "hack" who the website is about


Learn more about John Loftus

It is possible that John Loftus may know more intelligence secrets than anyone alive. As a former Justice Department prosecutor, Loftus once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize. In 2002, the SHOWTIME channel will begin filming “SECRET WARS,” the pilot of a television series based on Loftus’ life story, starring Jon Voight and Aidan Quinn.

As a young U.S. Army officer, John Loftus helped train Israelis on a covert operation that turned the tide of battle in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. During the Carter and Reagan Administrations, he investigated CIA cases and Nazi War Criminals for the Attorney General of the United States. In 1982, his “60 Minutes” expose of Nazis on the US government payroll won the Emmy Award for outstanding investigative journalism.

Born in Boston, Loftus now lives in St. Petersburg where he volunteers as the first Irish Catholic President of the Florida Holocaust Museum, the fifth largest in the world. Their goal is to end racism in our children’s lifetime. After recovering from colon cancer, he is now completing his fifth book, a look at the Middle East through the life of Jonathan Pollard. Before his illness, he had been rated among the funniest and most inspiring speakers on the international and college lecture circuits. Now he’s back with a totally different lecture that could not be more timely.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Define "win"

Hold the "elections" and leave.

BTW, what kind of "elections" dont even have the NAMES of the candidates on the friggin BALLOTS?????

We've already "lost" this thing as far as Im concerned. The Art of War says....most battles are either won or lost BEFORE they're ever fought.

Please define "win" and I'll give you an honest answer. As far as Team Bush is concerned Oil flowing to us freely will be a "win"

THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT FREEDOM OR DEMOCRACY

You pacifists are hopeless. You already think we lost. Notice that he still won't answer the question - anyone suprised?

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by Knucklebones
The "hack" who the website is about


Learn more about John Loftus

It is possible that John Loftus may know more intelligence secrets than anyone alive. As a former Justice Department prosecutor, Loftus once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize. In 2002, the SHOWTIME channel will begin filming “SECRET WARS,” the pilot of a television series based on Loftus’ life story, starring Jon Voight and Aidan Quinn.

As a young U.S. Army officer, John Loftus helped train Israelis on a covert operation that turned the tide of battle in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. During the Carter and Reagan Administrations, he investigated CIA cases and Nazi War Criminals for the Attorney General of the United States. In 1982, his “60 Minutes” expose of Nazis on the US government payroll won the Emmy Award for outstanding investigative journalism.

Born in Boston, Loftus now lives in St. Petersburg where he volunteers as the first Irish Catholic President of the Florida Holocaust Museum, the fifth largest in the world. Their goal is to end racism in our children’s lifetime. After recovering from colon cancer, he is now completing his fifth book, a look at the Middle East through the life of Jonathan Pollard. Before his illness, he had been rated among the funniest and most inspiring speakers on the international and college lecture circuits. Now he’s back with a totally different lecture that could not be more timely.

Again, what is your point? That Americans did business with the German government in the 1930s? Is that your point? Then I take it back, Loftus is a genius.

[LoungeMachine]

define the word WIN in your view of this "war", and I'll answer the question.

jesus h christ

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It comes down to this – you are either in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq – or not. If you are not in favor of the U.S. winning the war in Iraq you are in favor of reestablishing Saddam Hussein as the legitimate President of Iraq. Period. You decide which side you’re on.

BBB, you couldn't even tell us what winning the war in Iraq means. The whole thing was designed to be open ended. Perpetual. How fuckin' hard is that to understand?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
BBB, you couldn't even tell us what winning the war in Iraq means. The whole thing was designed to be open ended. Perpetual. How fuckin' hard is that to understand?

EXACTLY

There was NEVER a clear objective, as it changed with the wind. No exit strategy either.

NOW THEY CAN'T EVEN DEFINE WHAT A WIN WOULD LOOK LIKE

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
As far as Team Bush is concerned Oil flowing to us freely will be a "win"

Even if this idiotic statement were true, what would your opposing argument be ??

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Even if this idiotic statement were true, what would your opposing argument be ??

That we shouldnt KILL tens of thousands of innocent citizens for OIL

But of course YOUR idiotic statements will refute this, right Mr. Christian?