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Although evolutionists state that life resulted from non-life, matter resulted from nothing, and humans resulted from animals, each of these is an impossibility of science and the natural world. thats my basis..does that help.
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When? Give me a specific example, and not some bullshit from a fundimentalist web site. The fossil record is a "severe lack of evidence?" You guys are out of you stunted minds! Show me an academic paper written by any scientist teaching at a real universtiy science dept. that is about "Intelligent Design." And I'll show you a pig flying out of the Pope's ass! You'll be looking long and hard for that one!Originally posted by whodat
Evolutionists often have come forth and admitted their own and their colleagues' extreme degree of bias in this matter. Some have admitted that their approach has not been scientific or objective at all. Many admit to the severe lack of evidence for evolution and that they have accepted their conclutions only because they are unwilling to accept that evolution never occured.Comment
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hahahahaa..Comment
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You won't be taking anyone to English class I hope.Originally posted by whodat
the 2 have nothing to do with one another..getting big, tall , fat is genetics..not evolution. damn, go back to school before i take you back to schoolComment
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Originally posted by Nickdfresh
There is a hell of a lot more evidence for Evolution than there is for Creationism/UnItelligent Design!
Then show me some...
My description of mutation of DNA is strong evidence against it...
So we should teach nothing and fall behind the rest of the world in the sciences!?
No! The Theory of Evolution has little to do with scientific education...
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Evolutionists' or as I like to call them, rational people, are not seeking WHY life started, but "how" it started. Life arose from organic compounds, no one claims to know exactly how that happened! That is not even the central part of Evolution!Originally posted by whodat
Although evolutionists state that life resulted from non-life, matter resulted from nothing, and humans resulted from animals, each of these is an impossibility of science and the natural world. thats my basis..does that help.Comment
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How? No it's not! Who told you that? The bacteria recover, why do we still have infections then? How do you explain virulent "supergerms?" You've merely pointed out an artificial form of natural selection.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
There is a hell of a lot more evidence for Evolution than there is for Creationism/UnItelligent Design!
[b]Then show me some...
My description of mutation of DNA is strong evidence against it...Comment
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Someone that is backward and anti-science and seeks to return us to the days of the Skopes Monkey Trial!Originally posted by ELVIS
No...
Define a superstitious hick..Comment
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Originally posted by whodat
the 2 have nothing to do with one another..getting big, tall , fat is genetics..not evolution. damn, go back to school before i take you back to school
Nick, I leave it to you, this guy is hopeless beyond hope.
I really hope that he is really just trying to pull our leg and be funny by pretending to be a idiot, but somehow, I just can't believe that.Comment
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God is not anti-science, or anti-education...
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
(2 Timothy 2:15)Comment
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2 words: Private School
Evolution is based in theory, but i also consider the term "evolution" to be somewhat descriptive of the term "growth".
Now we all grow as we age so in a sense we all evolve and i have yet to see anything about evolution that discounts the existance of God.
I don't believe that we evolved from apes either.
The genetic makeup of an ape is substantially different than that of man.
We have more water content in our bodies than the ape, and if evolution were true then tell me what has evolved in the last 6000 years, we are people just like those who walked the earth so long ago with no changes in our basic structure. so what happened, did evoloution stop? No it didn't.
This planet has been home to countless species since the snowball earth days, which by the way is not a theory, it is fact.
prehistoric man, though similar in appearance was genetically different than the homosapian.
They were a completely different species than we are, therefore we could not have come from them.
We have more in common with the Dolphin than we do apes as a matter of fact, and since we are mostly water, then our origins are of a more aquatic nature.
And that doesn't discount God, we were simply constructed of the materials available on earth.
The fact that we even live on this planet is a miracle because if there were to be the slightest change in tilt and axis of earth it would change the climate on the globe so drastically that large portions of the population would be wiped out, most likely become frozen people-pops. That is of course if it didn't wipe out all human life all together.
Personally, the theory of evolution may comfort some people that choose not to believe in a God, so be it, but it does more to prove his existance than disprove it in my opinion because i have seen nothing conclusive to prove we evolved from anything but seawater.
Besides, if evolution brought us from the ape then why are there still apes that look like apes, or why aren't there any half man half apes walking around in mid evolution?
Because we did not evolve from an ape, yes we are similar, but that could be due solely to the fact that we are all products made from the earth, so we are relative in that sense, just not related directly.
It the same difference that seperates the white man from the black man. though very similar, there are profound differences in our genetic makeup, and it's more than just skin pigment.
Which brings up another theory that i came up with in highschool.
Black Man came from the ape, White Man was an experiment conducted by aliens from another planet. I don't believe this really, but it would explain a lot if it were true.
The oldest known human remains were found in Africa...
Just think about the bottom of the ocean, there are things living there that have never been seen yet, so to buy into some scientists theory without him having ALL the facts of whats on this earth is a belief based in ignorance.
The bible is founded on world history, you can document the stories in the book and know that they did in fact happen.
But for some reason it is the spiritual part where we have to answer to that God that turns people off.
I believe we call that a lack of faith, and it will hurt you if i am right.
If i am wrong, it makes no difference to me, I am who i am, and i am as God made me, and i have Faith in his existance. No, I have proof of his existance because of the fact that i'm still alive today.
I count my blessings, and i struggle with my faith because i was led astray by false prophets that have done so much damage to my understanding of the word, I lost track along the way, and the bible didn't help much.
My problem now is that i have more questions than answers, but researching those questions has answered some of them.
But to date, I have yet to see any theory that discounts the existance of God as our creator and a guiding force in our lives. we just have to choose to surrender to him if we want his blessings and salvation.
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Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The bacteria recover, why do we still have infections then?
The do not "recover", they develop resistance, which leaves them less viable, NOT stronger as you think...
I already explained it...
How do you explain virulent "supergerms?"
It's the same thing, except in the case of Molecular engineering, where the supergerms are created in the lab...
BTW, some scientists have suggested that the HIV virus may have been created in such a manner...
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Thank you Cat!Besides, if evolution brought us from the ape then why are there still apes that look like apes, or why aren't there any half man half apes walking around in mid evolution?
Just where are all of these mid-evolution species ??
They should be everywhere...Comment
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Like I said, those who discredit evolution have not studied up on it enough mostly. I can see large parts of your argument that is not part of the evolutionary theory, and large parts that are explained further, which if you understood, would know how it was possible.
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"We have more in common with the Dolphin than we do apes as a matter of fact, and since we are mostly water, then our origins are of a more aquatic nature.
And that doesn't discount God, we were simply constructed of the materials available on earth."
Um, Most organisms on Earth are mostly water. Saying that we are more closely relatd to the Dolphin because we are mostly water = making stuff up and taking it as truth because it sounds right
"The fact that we even live on this planet is a miracle because if there were to be the slightest change in tilt and axis of earth it would change the climate on the globe so drastically that large portions of the population would be wiped out, most likely become frozen people-pops. That is of course if it didn't wipe out all human life all together."
The world is not 60,000 years old. You have to understand that the human race was only here for like a BLINK in the earth's time, and during the Earth's life, MANY of those so called changes HAVE taken place. Haven't you even heard of ice ages and such before? There is even a theory that life on the planet has had to restart 2 or 3 times, because of global wipeouts.
"I don't believe that we evolved from apes either.
The genetic makeup of an ape is substantially different than that of man.
We have more water content in our bodies than the ape, and if evolution were true then tell me what has evolved in the last 6000 years, we are people just like those who walked the earth so long ago with no changes in our basic structure. so what happened, did evoloution stop? No it didn't."
The world is NOT 60,000 years old. Again, you do not seem to understand the theory of evolution at all. You have no idea of the scope of time it takes to evolve new species.
"Besides, if evolution brought us from the ape then why are there still apes that look like apes, or why aren't there any half man half apes walking around in mid evolution?
Because we did not evolve from an ape, yes we are similar, but that could be due solely to the fact that we are all products made from the earth, so we are relative in that sense, just not related directly."
Again, you do not seem to understand anything at all about evolution, It's not like they ALL evolve the exact same way.
Example, 3 guys graduate from the same highschool, one goes to college, another starts working, and one becomes homeless. By your way of thinking, they would all go to college.
I would have thought this was more of a common sense kinda thing.
"But to date, I have yet to see any theory that discounts the existance of God as our creator and a guiding force in our lives. we just have to choose to surrender to him if we want his blessings and salvation."
That is your choice as a member of the Christian religion, but sorry, the children also have a choice not to let religion get in the way of their learning. There is more then one religion, and OBVIOUSLY more then one way of interpreting Christianity, therefore to make EVERYONE in a certain district learn from a particular sect of Christianity is nothing but bullshit.
"Just think about the bottom of the ocean, there are things living there that have never been seen yet, so to buy into some scientists theory without him having ALL the facts of whats on this earth is a belief based in ignorance.
The bible is founded on world history, you can document the stories in the book and know that they did in fact happen.
But for some reason it is the spiritual part where we have to answer to that God that turns people off.
I believe we call that a lack of faith, and it will hurt you if i am right.
If i am wrong, it makes no difference to me, I am who i am, and i am as God made me, and i have Faith in his existance. No, I have proof of his existance because of the fact that i'm still alive today."
The bible was written by many different people and has gone through many revisions. Also, a scientist can know all the facts of whats on this Earth, and still come up with wrong theories. However, it is obvious that evolution is happening.It is not necessary to find out every single freakin organism on the planet, just to see that evolution is happening. Yes, there may be some cases where aliens and such have genetically altered us, but that does not change the fact that Evolution has happened. In fact, we are genetically altering organisms TODAY, but does that change the fact that evolution has happened? NO!
It seems that the fact that you can discredit a scientific theory, without any real knowledge of it, is more of an act of ignorance.
"It the same difference that seperates the white man from the black man. though very similar, there are profound differences in our genetic makeup, and it's more than just skin pigment."
God, i'm sick of people who are only capable of black and white thinking. Apparently, you think that way to the point, that even the human race is seperated into black and white groups to you.
What about all the people who are in the middle ground? Or the kids with a black mom and a white dad? Hell, even Jesus was probably a middle eastern man. It's really doubtful that he was white. You really think that genetic changes as the migrate are not possible?
I mean COME ON! There are MANY more skin colors then white and black. Theres a freaking shitload of brown people.Comment
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Thank you Cat!
Just where are all of these mid-evolution species ??
They should be everywhere...
Yes, they should.
And from where i sit nothing has evolved in the last 2000 years, except maybe crystals in the earth, lol.Last edited by ELVIS; 01-25-2005, 08:22 PM.Comment
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