Rush Limbaugh: Illegal immigration threatens Sovereignty, GOP Coalition, & Wages

[Vivian Campbell]

Did I mention drivers licenses in my second post? I Don't recall I did. Train, you support the basic spirit behind the Bush amnesty program - the total break down of our sovereignty through the massive influx of millions of uneducated, poor, disease ridden Mexicans. If we give any nod to the Mexican people, either through amnesty or any kind of guest worker program, the result will be anarchy in the streets, bankrupt State treasuries, and a collapse of the wage structure of our economy.

Anyone who clutches to the race card usually doesn't have an intellectual leg to stand on. I focus on Mexicans because they are the main offenders. I believe we should prevent illegal immigration from Europe, Asia, Africa, South/Central America and the Carribean. I would especially like to see any Cuban on a raft sent back to Castro's "paradise." Too many people have died to create a quality of life that we take for granted. We shouldn't allow it to be destroyed by uneducated foreigners who refuse to affect change in their own country. The World can keep its tired and its poor. I prefer to have college educated, legal, immigrants - regardless of their race and ethnicity.

[Big Train]

Vivian,

I have no idea how much more I can break it down for you in plain English: I DO NOT SUPPORT THE BUSH PLAN. Not in spirit, intent or deed.

Tell me where I said I support a massive influx of immigrants? That's right, I didn't. I mention licenses because it is part of the guest worker proposals that AGAIN I am against. Choose to ignore what I am saying, but don't be retarded by following it up with a stupid statement that I don't have a leg to stand on. Trying to be Rambo at the southern border is the height of such stupidity.

You prefer Euros is really what your driving at. Merely mentioning other ethnicities throws people into a tizzy: it's the mexicans, the dirty mexicans. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that they are a huge group of people coming here, and I'll say it yet AGAIN and s-l-o-w-l-y for you, they should not be here. I'm just saying let's be equally as tough on everyone, then I feel it's a bit less racist. Go as hard on the German immigrants in the shelter downtown as you do Mexicans at the gas stations. Thus far, I have not seen or heard much on that front from anyone of prominence. Wouldn't want to offend your backer's homeland's. Necons love their Lexus and BMW's...

[ODShowtime]

Man did I see a lot of Mexicans this weekend.

[Vivian Campbell]

Originally posted by Big Train
Vivian,

Trying to be Rambo at the southern border is the height of such stupidity.

What is this solution, Train? By not putting troops on the border, it is a de-facto endorsement of illegal immigration. Ultimately, if our laws our disobeyed, we must enforce them with the necessary level of force. We are in a War on Terror, the border must be protected by our military in order to stop the Islamic terrorists who want to kill us.

A security wall and military protection has worked tremendously in Israel, it will do wonders here.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Vivian Campbell

A security wall and military protection has worked tremendously in Israel, it will do wonders here.

Following the Likud example (and hiring Likud agents for a pResidential cabinet) is how we got in a so-called war on terror in the first place.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Vivian Campbell
What is this solution, Train? By not putting troops on the border, it is a de-facto endorsement of illegal immigration. Ultimately, if our laws our disobeyed, we must enforce them with the necessary level of force. We are in a War on Terror, the border must be protected by our military in order to stop the Islamic terrorists who want to kill us.

A security wall and military protection has worked tremendously in Israel, it will do wonders here.

Why the fuck do you chose not to listen? I've already told you several times now what I think the solutions are. You seem to hear what you want. Aggression is not what's called for here, although you don't seem to get it. Even if you feel it MUST be done, don't you understand it CAN't be done? Putting every solider and reservist on every inch on all of our borders (I'll assume you would not be as dumb as to leave the northern border-this is about not letting in terrorists right?), you still would not be able to stop the flow of everyone who wants to be here.

The solution is economic, not martial.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Vivian Campbell
What is this solution, Train? By not putting troops on the border, it is a de-facto endorsement of illegal immigration. Ultimately, if our laws our disobeyed, we must enforce them with the necessary level of force. We are in a War on Terror, the border must be protected by our military in order to stop the Islamic terrorists who want to kill us.

A security wall and military protection has worked tremendously in Israel, it will do wonders here.

A ridiculous analogy, last time I checked, Mexicans are not suicide bombers, nor can scale of the projects be analogously compared since the Texas, NM, and Arizona borders are far too expansive. Also, Israel has only a small agricultural out put, so their need for Palestinian workers is not nearly as great. A wall could be easily breeched at various points and no doubt would be, so it would only slow things down at best.

Secondly, as I stated before, and no one ever addresses it, Mexico and the U.S. have a symbiotic relationship that is mutually beneficial. Shutting down the border totally would further the destabilization of Mexico and possibly cause problems to our national security in the long run. For instance, drug trafficking and perpetual hostility that could lead to terrorism in the future, not originating from the middle east, from South America. We could slow down the number of people, but we cannot stop the drugs as it is. Think about it.

[Pontius Pilate]

Originally posted by Big Train
The solution is economic, not martial.

Students, this is code word for welfare scheme. Lord Train has in his mind some variation of income redistribution. Whether it be allowing Mexicans to rip away jobs from Americans and sending the dollars back to Mexico or some form of foreign aid that will help that corrupt wasteland build a YMCA and operate a midnight basketball league.

Lord Train, when theft in rampant in your town, do you suggest an economic solution? Perhaps, you think the cops should talk to criminals about job opportunities at the local McDonalds instead of arresting them.

Originally posted by Big Train
Putting every solider and reservist on every inch on all of our borders (I'll assume you would not be as dumb as to leave the northern border-this is about not letting in terrorists right?), you still would not be able to stop the flow of everyone who wants to be here.

Dear Train, you seek to put America in a fetal position on this issue. We shall not be cowards in the face of the greatest threat this nation has ever faced. Let us march to the border with bricks in hand and build a barbed wire laced wall on every single inch of that border. Neither villain, nor vagrant shall pass this line!

Originally posted by Big Train
the northern border-this is about not letting in terrorists right?), you still would not be able to stop the flow of everyone who wants to be here.
.

Success is not gauged by perfection. There must be a marked decrease.

And one more thing, don't compare educated and refined Europeans, Japanese, and Canadians with third world peasants who haven't contributed one red cent to civilization. If they want a job, create one. If they want a clean democracy, overthrow Fox. But, don't come onto my door step and defecate on it.

America Uber Alles!

[Pontius Pilate]

I would like to add that I am heartened by Mr. Limbaugh’s courageous speech against illegal immigration. He has finally joined the ranks of fine patriots such as Michael Savage and Pat Buchanan on this issue. Hooray! I say!

Those who deflect this issue with sinister insults about his addiction to LEGALIZED drugs should be ashamed at their utter lack of compassion. I thought liberals were in league with the addict? Hasn’t Rush fulfilled the liberal requirement of seeking rehab care? Is this not enough for your black hearts? In the future, please be supportive of this man and people like him.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Pontius Pilate
Students, this is code word for welfare scheme. Lord Train has in his mind some variation of income redistribution. Whether it be allowing Mexicans to rip away jobs from Americans and sending the dollars back to Mexico or some form of foreign aid that will help that corrupt wasteland build a YMCA and operate a midnight basketball league.

Lord Train, when theft in rampant in your town, do you suggest an economic solution? Perhaps, you think the cops should talk to criminals about job opportunities at the local McDonalds instead of arresting them.

Dear Train, you seek to put America in a fetal position on this issue. We shall not be cowards in the face of the greatest threat this nation has ever faced. Let us march to the border with bricks in hand and build a barbed wire laced wall on every single inch of that border. Neither villain, nor vagrant shall pass this line!

Success is not gauged by perfection. There must be a marked decrease.

And one more thing, don't compare educated and refined Europeans, Japanese, and Canadians with third world peasants who haven't contributed one red cent to civilization. If they want a job, create one. If they want a clean democracy, overthrow Fox. But, don't come onto my door step and defecate on it.

America Uber Alles!

MAN, where does one start with all this? Yes, economic pressure to "assist" mexico in getting there house in order, is in order. This is not a "welfare" state program. In fact, I would advocate the opposite. Forcing reforms through withholding certain forms of aid. But I suppose you "know my code"...

Lord Pilate, I live in LA, on the east side. I'm surronded by Mexicans. I can tell you I've not been robbed, shot or even looked at sideways. I am a well off white male, I thank you. I think your fears of the brown man are highly exaggerated. I suggest you spend some time with them, you know actual people, as opposed to the stereotypes your accustomed to from your television receiver in the burbs.

I'm not seeking to put America in the "fetal position" and I challenge you to explain to me how I am. I am calling for realisitic and practical solutions to the problems, not the feel good "put more rednecks with guns on patrol" so many advocate which solves nothing. The martial option is not even PHYSCIALLY possible, so how can you advocate it?

Your last paragraph is to racist to even justify with a response. Just make sure the eyeslits in your hood face forward, so you can see where your going at your next rally..

[Vivian Campbell]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
A ridiculous analogy, last time I checked, Mexicans are not suicide bombers,

Do you really think Mexicans are the only people sneaking over the border?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Vivian Campbell
Do you really think Mexicans are the only people sneaking over the border?

No, Chinese and asians sneak in through ports all the time, anyone for militarizing the ports of LA, Boston, or New York City? They're probably a far more likely 'port of entry' for potential terrorists.

[GAR]

We should just fund a study on why the government isn't fucking deporting all these wetbacks and chinks. I think it's collusion and somebody's got to pay the price: namely the Chinks and Vicente Fox

[Loki]

"What good are our laws? If we're going to send people to jail for avoiding taxes, for breaking the law, whatever we send them to jail for,....."
haw haw. like illegally buying prescription drugs? hath this blowhard been brought to justice? nay.
thine bloated gilded calf hath spoken, out of both sides of his mouth. again. fools and braggarts. huzzah.