Secretly Recorded Bush Interviews From 1998

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by ELVIS
I guess teaching school children that homosexuality is just another lifestyle to be accepted is of no importance, eh ODS ??

There are hundreds of issues that are more important than restricting people's rights in a free society. To treat them differently under the law is a disgrace to the Constitution; no different than the way blacks were treated 100 years ago.

All it is is fear mongering and bullshit. You should rightly be ashamed of yourself for buying into it.

That said, I do not condone homosexuality, and when I meet them, they're usually pretty fucked up in the head so it's best to just avoid them.

EDIT: I do condone bi-sexual women when they're decent looking.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
There are hundreds of issues that are more important than restricting people's rights in a free society.

Not when those "rights" threaten the fabric of that society...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW Cat, have you heard the actual tapes ??

Search for it...

I don't think all of it is George Bush, some of it is, but not all...

Yeah i have because when this news broke it troubled me deeply.
I do question the authenticity of some of the content, but on the parts that made me shutter, it was clearly Bush doing the talking.

The christian was disenfranchised and there is no two ways about it.
Had his actions in the first 4 years gone against those statements you could have given him the benefit of the doubt, but we as believers don't have that luxery in this instance.

Anything less than the truth is a lie, and not of God.

So this whole Christian movement into politics is not one the holy men should be persuing.
The church should be focused on salvation, not politics.

And we should never have faith in man, it is that simple.
The only way the christian will get what they want is if Christ returns and puts an end to this flesh age.
Then there will be no discussion, every eye will see him in the sky and every knee shall bow before him.

[ELVIS]

I hear ya...

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Cathedral


Liberalism is the tool of the Devil

The Devil wants to make sure the sick and the elderly, as well as the les fortunate are cared for?

The Devil wants to make sure children have hot meals, and a safe place to sleep?

The Devil wants to avoid war?

The Devil wants to keep handguns away from criminals?

The Devil wants to protect free speech?


Go figure


Isnt it also "written" that we will be judged by how we treat the less fortunate?

Something's not adding up here my friend.....

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW Cat, have you heard the actual tapes ??

Search for it...

I don't think all of it is George Bush, some of it is, but not all...

Actually I heard one clip being played on the ABC News last night that I thought sounded more like Jeb. Maybe Wead interviewed both of the Bush Hellspawn, (since there was initially some speculation as to which one the BCE would run) and then mixed up the tapes?

[FORD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
The Devil wants to make sure the sick and the elderly, as well as the les fortunate are cared for?

The Devil wants to make sure children have hot meals, and a safe place to sleep?

The Devil wants to avoid war?

The Devil wants to keep handguns away from criminals?

The Devil wants to protect free speech?

You mean you forgot that part where Satan went up on the Mount and gave that great speech?

Oh wait, that wasn't Satan.......

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Not when those "rights" threaten the fabric of that society...

Is there any proof of that at all? How do you quantify the integrity of the fabric of society? When you think about it logically, you realize that you are just spouting a bunch of nonsense.


I'll tell you what's really fucking up society. The REAL PORNOGRAPHY of death and destruction beamed every day into our homes from cable news networks. It's not normal and not ok to be blowing shit up and chopping people's heads off.


And it's NOT ok for some god-damned 3rd grader to dictate to me what I can watch on TV. The very thought is appalling. But it's cool with you, right?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Haha...

I agree...

I'm still not certain that homosexuality is a presidential issue, although he should weigh in one way or the other...

As a Christian it is an issue, though I don't claim to be a witness of Bush's faith...

Sure it is a presidential issue because it is a plague on our society and a decline in our standing with God.
The lie is that we think we can seperate the issue, and the lie was perpetrated by Satan.
The fact is, the game is over, it ended 2000 years ago when Jesus gave up his life for all of us.
He knew what was to come and it came for sure.
And without the the cross we would all have nothing to look forward to after this life.

It's part of a perfect paln, and it is unfolding exactly as it was written.

You know this is true, and for us to think that anything will change and humanity will suddenly praise God?
It ain't happening.
Another problem is the influence the evengelists we see all over the tube are having on people.
They are preaching flase doctrines that they have no proven for themselves but continue to spread as tradition, and the hebrew definition of tradition is "nothing useful".

I Thess 5:21 "Prove all things, hold fast that which is good"

This short line says soooooooooooo much.
Because if we don't prove what we believe to ourselves we will be decieved by the Antichrist when he comes.
That scares me for my family that believes God returns before the Antichrist, because that is not documented in any of my study bibles unless you take the word out of context and twist it to fit, but you can make it fit, if you try.

The only thing that is of truth today is that "It is finished", Jesus was talking about today, and he was right, it was finished when he went to the cross.
We are just going through the motions, and i won't argue the point with anyone. believe what you choose, it is your choice alone.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD
You mean you forgot that part where Satan went up on the Mount and gave that great speech?

Oh wait, that wasn't Satan.......

Maybe it was my cushy middle class Presbyterian upbringing but it just seems like even RELIGION is getting uglier and more violent.....

The whole world is being pulled by extrememists, whether it be political, religious, corporate, social, what have you.......

Peace on Earth, Good Will Toward Men........whatthefuck ever happened to THAT?

I don't remember being taught that it was all a "tool of the Devil"

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
The Devil wants to make sure the sick and the elderly, as well as the les fortunate are cared for?

The Devil wants to make sure children have hot meals, and a safe place to sleep?

The Devil wants to avoid war?

The Devil wants to keep handguns away from criminals?

The Devil wants to protect free speech?


Go figure


Isnt it also "written" that we will be judged by how we treat the less fortunate?

Something's not adding up here my friend.....

I'm not talking about todays liberal politicians, but you do bring up a good point.
All of those things you mentioned sound great, but they aren't of God.
Sure, there is a great and wonderful plan for all of us.
The Government (and i'm no longer differentiating between Repucb and Dem) wants to take care of us all from birth to the grave. health care for everyone, etc.
But what is missing is the presence of God in that plan, so it won't work.
Homeland Security without God's will, won't work.
we removed God from the public schools and now they aren't working.

You see a trend here?
Schools are no longer a place to educate our children, it is a social club that teaches them that there is no God and we are alone in the cosmos...WRONG ANSWER.

If we move freely into trusting the world system, when the Antichrist comes he will have little trouble placing his mark upon our heads much in the same fashion he decieved Eve in the Garden.
he knows our weaknesses, and plays upon them with a skill that is to be respected and admired.
Just not accepted or believed.

The only one who can give you what you truly need is God, and he promised it to all of us, but you have to seek it through his son, Jesus Christ and it ain't gonna happen in this flesh age.

We are currently in another great flood, the flood of lies, but the time is here, and it is finished.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Maybe it was my cushy middle class Presbyterian upbringing but it just seems like even RELIGION is getting uglier and more violent.....

The whole world is being pulled by extrememists, whether it be political, religious, corporate, social, what have you.......

Peace on Earth, Good Will Toward Men........whatthefuck ever happened to THAT?

I don't remember being taught that it was all a "tool of the Devil"

Read the book of Genesis again. the liberalism i mentioned has nothing to do with politics.
it was the liberal way the serpeant twisted what God said to Eve about the tree of life and knowledge.
Even Eve didn't quote God exactly and in doing so she was decieved into thinking that she was like God and therefore went against his commandment not to eat of , or even touch it, Or she would surely die.
Eve quoted God as saying "Lest Ye Die", big difference, and so went out the window the idea of Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men.

Extremist Christians are not christians at all if they are condemning man instead of reaching out to him.

[Wayne L.]

There is no controversy anywhere listening to those secretly taped conversations President Bush had with his former friend Doug Wead except in the warped minds of far left liberal wackos.

[ODShowtime]

you need to go back to "scholl"

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
There is no controversy anywhere listening to those secretly taped conversations President Bush had with his former friend Doug Wead except in the warped minds of far left liberal wackos.

Not true, I was convinced that we finally got a President that would challenge core issues which i oppose only to find out that he had no intentions of confronting them two years before taking the office.

He talked a good show, but it's only so convenient that he has the opposition to use as an excuse.

In the first 4 years he did nothing but go through the motions to, as we say in entertainment, put on a good show.

Bush is in the process of selling out his core support because we expect action on his "mandate", just not the action he is set to take.

He lied, there is only one way to cut that loaf of bread.