Repubs have no respect for animals.

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
When you look at the size of this refuge, it's not very big compared to the state. The ratio of what they will use with that space is supposed to about the same as putting a piece of newpaper down on a tennis court. As much as we have fucked up the rest of the country with development, I can hardly see why this is such a problem.

This "not very big area" is the only habitat for the caribou that lives there. Is it worth 6 months worth of oil to permanently damage this portion of the earth and force a species to extinction?

[FORD]

Zogby: 55-60% of American Oppose Arctic Drilling

From December 21, 2004.

A new Zogby International survey shows that Americans oppose opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for oil drilling by a solid 55% - 38% margin. Their opposition is even stronger, 59% - 25%, to a proposed "backdoor maneuver" that would use the annual Congressional budget process to let the oil industry into the Refuge.

Moreover, an overwhelming 80% say that conservation, improved fuel efficiency and the development of renewable energy alternatives are the best ways to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil. Only 17% say that more drilling on America's public lands is the solution.

[Warham]

So they are willing to pay $2 a gallon then. So be it.

Cars aren't going to be running on solar power any time soon, so drilling in Alaska is the best current solution.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
This "not very big area" is the only habitat for the caribou that lives there. Is it worth 6 months worth of oil to permanently damage this portion of the earth and force a species to extinction?

There's a lot more than 6 months worth under there and you know it.

Fuck the caribou! I want a new Charger this year!

[Steve Savicki]

6 months... sorry to inconvenience half a year of your life.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by diamondD
There's a lot more than 6 months worth under there and you know it.

Fuck the caribou! I want a new Charger this year!

Not by much. Drilling in the Artic will have virtually no impact on gas prices.

[LoungeMachine]

Alternative energy sources ARE our future. There are no other choices.

The world's demand [read CHINA] is growing faster than our own, and with the rest of the world [read CHINA] owning more and more of our debt, we might have less time than we think.

Two whole dollars a gallon?????????

BIG FUCKING DEAL.

I SAY MAKE IT 3, WITH THE ENTIRE 1/3 GOING TO ALT FUEL RESEARCH. [ not for deisel, jet fuel, and other exemptions

Two fucking dollars a gallon is NOTHING

IT'S CHEAPER THAN BOTTLED WATER

IT'S CHEAPER THAN MILK

QUIT YOUR FUCKING WHINING ABOUT GAS PRICES.

Take the bus if it's such a god damn hardship

This country walks around like the entire world's petroleum resources are OUR FUCKING BIRTHRIGHT.

You've had a Texas "oil man" with saudi "connections" in the whitehouse, and Iraq........ye here we are


GAS IS TOO FUCKING CHEAP IN THIS COUNTRY.

[Warham]

Easy for you to say.

Where's the mercy on the poor who need to drive to work every day making minimum wage?

Some liberal you are,

Bastard.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Easy for you to say.

Where's the mercy on the poor who need to drive to work every day making minimum wage?

Some liberal you are,

Bastard.

puh-leeze

Yeah, The Right cares about showing the poor mercy.

Fucking classic, Warpig.

Fucking Classic.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine



I SAY MAKE IT 3, WITH THE ENTIRE 1/3 GOING TO ALT FUEL RESEARCH. [ not for deisel, jet fuel, and other exemptions

.

Other exemptions being Warpig filling up on his way to his minimum-wage job as the Wal-Mart greeter

[Big Train]

Lounge and I are on the same page. Two dollars a gallon is nothing and makes no change. 3-4-5-6-7 Dollars a gallon, making people SCREAM out for something else, that's where the change is. Lounge is the only lib pussy I know who actually sees it for what it is.

I'm a neocon and I admit it. I only fucking care about making money. Showing mercy to the poor is low on ANYONE's scale, libs included. So now that we are done bullshitting, lets get serious.

I have yet to see a "envoirnmentalist" dare to say the truth. Gas NEEDS to cost 9 dollars a gallon. That's right. NEEDS too..Then all of a sudden all this tech that we have sitting on a shelf will come roaring out of the gate. ROARING..you'll have a 600 horse Charger (very nice choice, I'd love to buy one myself) running on alt. energy, purring like always.

Fuck gas, period. Let the Chinese deal with it. It is a new industry people, one we can and need to dominate. Domination equals jobs...any Microsoft layoffs lately?

[Steve Savicki]

Gentlemen,

I believe gas at $2 a gallon is a sign of the times that the cost of living just increases over time.

If you're going to complain about gas increases, you may as well complain that movies went up from a quarter in your parents' days to $6.50 or $7 for a matenee or the price of CDs went for $14 to $17; $20 in a mall.

People who want more money simply increase the figure which increases every figure in turn in time. Go figure LOL!

Just be thankful you all have a roof over your head.

[Nickdfresh]

The price of gas in this country is nothing compared to Europe. Ask Kentucky or Sesh what they pay?

[FORD]

If merely raising the price of gas would force people to conserve fuel, I would be all for it. Unfortunately, the increase in gas prices effects nearly everything else in this country, because everything ships by truck, by plane, by boat, or by train, all of which currently burn some form of fossil fuel.

Here's an example of how that ends up working.... Because the BCE has totally FUCKED the economy in this state, there haven't been any cost of living raises here in over 4 years. During that same time, my health care costs have risen by at least 400%. Now add on to that the price of everything else damn near doubling since the Chimp was first court appointed, and the reality that it is all tied to fuel prices. End result - consistent pay cuts (in all but name). I won't even go into how it affects retirement and all that shit.


Raising gas prices is NOT the answer. Getting the goddamned oil industry out of the White House and moving the fuck forward with technology is.

And here's a radical solution - no trucks or SUV's unless you can prove that you NEED to drive one. There's this guy who works in my building. Dude's maybe 5'3" really short dude. I got nothing against him, but the motherfucker drives a F-350. You know, 10 feet off the ground, double axle kind of thing.

Why does he need that truck to work in an OFFICE??

THAT is the kind of wasteful bullshit which we don't need.

And the tax break for SUV's has to end. It was designed to help farmers buy equipment, and it's being abused by the rich. Cancel it immediately.

There's a good start.

[Warham]

We should all drive FORD Escorts.