'Cruel and unusual'

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
It'd take some inmate five minutes to kill that guy with a broomstick.

She's gotta wait two weeks.

She'll have morphine to start out. Then the delirium will put whatever is left of her brain into a coma. She'll feel what she feels now, little or nothing.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You're 'Christian' colors are beginning to show.

So is your "intolerance." The virtue you liberals hold near and dear to your heart. Oh, that's right, you only tolerate certain virtues, creeds, and beliefs, correct?

[Warham]

I don't relish anything. I just find her actions indefensible.

If I opposed car pollution, would it be a good idea to run into rush hour traffic on I-95?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I don't relish anything. I just find her actions indefensible.

If I opposed car pollution, would it be a good idea to run into rush hour traffic on I-95?

If you think you're fat, should you eat good food, then stick your fingers down your throat, ultimately causing severe, irreversible brain damage resulting in $100,000's to be spent on futile therapies?

[Warham]

Perhaps those bruises that were found on her body had something to do with it, eh?

He's spent more money paying his lawyer than he has trying to pay for her therapy.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Perhaps those bruises that were found on her body had something to do with it, eh?

He's spent more money paying his lawyer than he has trying to pay for her therapy.

Which bruises, the one's specualted by her family? He spent the money on lawyers when several brain specialists told him recovery was impossible.

[academic punk]

Once again, smear tactics.

Look, warham, EVERY doctor agrees that her condition is basically living dead and irrersible. You also have - at this point - 20 judges who have ruled on this case. How many does it take? Aree you at all aware of how hard you'd be cackling at nick right now if he was going on and on like this about, say, the 2000 election results?

The Schindlers would have definitely gone after MS about abuses and whatnot already rather than this continuous governmental and legal uphill losing battle if there were anything there. What you're doing is tantamount to slander, and it's all for getting your side to feel like its won.

it hasn't. yet. I for one hope it doesn't.

[tomballin]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The autonomic response of the medulla located at her brain stem. The part that controls the most basic of functions, and the last part of the brain to die. The rest of her brain turned to mush, LITERALLY!

Her husband spent much of the settlement award (you know, the awards that Bush is trying to limit?) to try new therapies and worked with her parents initially. But when the money became involved, that's when they turned on him.

I am sorry, some great members I respect here, but you don’t know shit on this subject, because you don't know the Schiavo case in detail. As I have stated when I waded in on this whole issue, I've followed Terri’s case closely for 4 straight years because I have a PVS in my non-immediate family.

NDF, most of Terri's medical malpractice money went to Michael’s attorney's et. al. trying to end Terri's life. In fact the Schindler's paid for most of Terri's therapy during the early years, because Michael was broke. The guy was so broke he lived at the Schindler's home. Michael was supposed to pay them back with the award money, but never did.

Also custody of Terri when she collapsed was in joint between her maggot Scott Peterson clone husband, and her parents. Terri also wanted to divorce the maggot when she collapsed, according to sworn affidavits from several of her best friends. Her parent didn’t know this at the time, over even until later in this situation.

Terri’s parents only signed full guardian control to Michael, at the advice of the attorney that MS and Terri’s parents were using to facilitate in the malpractice case, because of Florida’s screwed up laws. NO OTHER REASON! Terri’s parents never realized at the time, MS would fuck them bad over the deal.

This is what started the ball rolling on this distasteful personal war between Terri’s father and Michael.

I am not going to wade in on anymore of this TS garbage, as there is no utility at this juncture, but I know more about PVS's than anyone here, PERIOD, unless someone else here has a female PVS in their family.

I hate to burst everyone’s bubble, but the brain does not control the entire body, memory cells throughout the body are highly involved, and Terri still has them, and can feel pain, emotion, among many other things. PVS’s in Terri’s state, can shock the shit out of you as to what they feel and understand. It’s very weird.

U.S. doctor's don't know fucking SHITE about all this, or even about this arena of medicine, because of the lack of qualified long-term neuro-endocrine research studies. The best studies and experts in the world are from Italy, Germany, and Japan, and they well dismiss a lot of this worthless shite the U.S. Medical establishment has to say here.

Just my 3 cents. Nothing personal intended again anyone.

Roth On

[academic punk]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=6&u=/ap/20050322/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman_texas_law

enjoy.

and, yes, I would appreciate your trying to explain this.

[Warham]

Originally posted by academic punk
Once again, smear tactics.

Look, warham, EVERY doctor agrees that her condition is basically living dead and irrersible. You also have - at this point - 20 judges who have ruled on this case. How many does it take? Aree you at all aware of how hard you'd be cackling at nick right now if he was going on and on like this about, say, the 2000 election results?

The Schindlers would have definitely gone after MS about abuses and whatnot already rather than this continuous governmental and legal uphill losing battle if there were anything there. What you're doing is tantamount to slander, and it's all for getting your side to feel like its won.

it hasn't. yet. I for one hope it doesn't.

20 judges have NOT ruled on the case.

The Supreme Court is considered as 9 of those judges, and they never bothered to look at it the last time it came around, because they didn't want to at the time. That's not considered a ruling, although the media would like to portray it that way.

[tomballin]

Originally posted by Warham
Michael Shiavo, that scumbag on Larry King the other night...

Shortly after saying his determination to end Terri's life was about her wishes, Schiavo changed his story in the King interview. Asked if he understood her family's feelings, he said: "Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want. ..."

Read that last sentence.

Point of Reference: Warham, you are reciting the transcript of the show which is in error on this comment, based on the actual video. Michael never said this, he was refering to Terri's parents saying that they didn't actually know Terri's wishes when she collasped, which is accurate.

[Warham]

He never said it? Then all these people who said he said it are lying?

[Warham]

KING: Have you had any contact with the family today? This is a sad day all the way around, Michael. We know of your dispute.

M. SCHIAVO: I've had no contact with them.

KING: No contact at all?

M. SCHIAVO: No.

KING: Do you understand how they feel?

M. SCHIAVO: Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want...

[Warham]

I don't see how you can read that any other way than the way he said it.

[Guitar Shark]

It's an error in the transcription, Warham. Watch the video.