Yaay!! Now You 30-Something Neo Con's Can Join The War on Terror!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Big Train
I can? What about you? Oh that's right, you don't care about it cuz we are fucked anyway...your just here to watch the fireworks. How boring...

I'm just here because I don't have a choice. I was disenfranchised on 11/2/04. It's not like I can leave without giving up my life and my occupation.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Let's get this thread back on track. Is any Neo Con that has never served willing to put his/her ass on the line here in the Reserves/Nat'l Guard? Like your hero Dubya, you might not even get called up after all.

Neo Con **crickets chirping**

[academic punk]

well, what did you expect? Some of them might be hypocrites, but they're not STUPID...

[Big Train]

Fuck.....

OK Nick, let's get back on your tired, dead horse of an argument. BTW, I'm still waiting for a valid response (Which OD just confirmed, he is as "full of shit" as we NEO-Cons are). He can't walk away from his life and be "disenfranchised" full time. He has no time to fight the system, he has a career and all that.

Let's all hold ourselves to the same candle, no?

Hypocrites Indeed, Punk...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Fuck.....

OK Nick, let's get back on your tired, dead horse of an argument. BTW, I'm still waiting for a valid response (Which OD just confirmed, he is as "full of shit" as we NEO-Cons are). He can't walk away from his life and be "disenfranchised" full time. He has no time to fight the system, he has a career and all that.

Let's all hold ourselves to the same candle, no?

Hypocrites Indeed, Punk...

Uh, no ODSHOW didn't support the War nor the Bush Administration's lies.

Your main excuse (I'm too old) has been removed for not enlisting. The argument is quite fresh given yesterday's headlines.

[Big Train]

Correct Nick,

But OD is opposed to the war right? Following your logic, he should be out on the front lines picketing in DC because he is so vehemently opposed to it.

Just walking your line here. And no, I was never to old to begin with, nothing I claimed. I'm not a solider and don't pretend to be. I support those who are.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Correct Nick,

But OD is opposed to the war right? Following your logic, he should be out on the front lines picketing in DC because he is so vehemently opposed to it.

Just walking your line here. And no, I was never to old to begin with, nothing I claimed. I'm not a solider and don't pretend to be. I support those who are.

He voted his conscience as I am sure you voted yours. Protesting is largely useless in this day and age.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Big Train
Correct Nick,

But OD is opposed to the war right? Following your logic, he should be out on the front lines picketing in DC because he is so vehemently opposed to it.

Just walking your line here. And no, I was never to old to begin with, nothing I claimed. I'm not a solider and don't pretend to be. I support those who are.

This is actually a pretty good retort. Well done.

BTW, I did say "some of them might be hypocrites"... as contentious as our exchanges sometimes get, I wasn't thinking of you specifically when I said it.


That being said, getting on a picket line doesn't pay the bills. Enlisting DOES earn a living. And a nice pension. It'll even pay the bills for you if you get hurt in action. Or it used to. You know, before some of this administartion's policies.

[The Scatologist]

Sorry for being off topic, but this needs to be said

WELL WTF DID YOU EXPECT BIG TRAIN? You morons always market to the people who don't even KNOW what music is! You think they would spend 15 fucking bucks on a CD when they don't even know what music is? Hell know, casual music fans would just dl shitty music cause it's worthless anyway. Why pay $15 for shit when you can get it free? Personally, though, I would not even download CRAP.


OH WOW! I think i'll sell watered down pop music and shitty hip hop to that kid who'll pretend to be all into it so he can act cool!

OH YEAH WOW! Like he's gonna actually BUY it if he doesn't even really care about music.


Wanna know what the real problem is? It's YOU. You give unfair advantages to SHITTY bands, hell, why do you people even do this anyway? Why can't you just promote REAL fucking bands like Led Zep and Classic Van Halen? Why do you think they're still fucking selling CDs today?


Hell, look at YOU! You're on a fucking David Lee Roth message board. Doesn't that tell you something? Like HMMMM maybe something like, HEY! DAVE KICKS ASS! We need more artists like CVH and DAVE! YOU KNOW! REAL BANDS!

Do you SERIOUSLY fucking see people buying SIMPLE PLAN Cds 10 years from now?

If you're that fucking STUPID, you deserve to go bankrupt so we can have the REAL bands out on top again.

[Warham]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
I'm just here because I don't have a choice. I was disenfranchised on 11/2/04. It's not like I can leave without giving up my life and my occupation.

If you voted, you weren't disenfranchised.

[Warham]

Originally posted by academic punk
This is actually a pretty good retort. Well done.

BTW, I did say "some of them might be hypocrites"... as contentious as our exchanges sometimes get, I wasn't thinking of you specifically when I said it.


That being said, getting on a picket line doesn't pay the bills. Enlisting DOES earn a living. And a nice pension. It'll even pay the bills for you if you get hurt in action. Or it used to. You know, before some of this administartion's policies.

I think my 100% disabled father would rather have his back 100% again than getting that disability check from the VA every month.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by academic punk
This is actually a pretty good retort. Well done.

BTW, I did say "some of them might be hypocrites"... as contentious as our exchanges sometimes get, I wasn't thinking of you specifically when I said it.


That being said, getting on a picket line doesn't pay the bills. Enlisting DOES earn a living. And a nice pension. It'll even pay the bills for you if you get hurt in action. Or it used to. You know, before some of this administartion's policies.

Bullshit. Getting a military retirement, even with a disability kicker from the VA, doesn't make it, and this Administration doesn't have crapola to do with that any more than any previous Administration. It's just a matter of how well a person and their family want to live.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
I think my 100% disabled father would rather have his back 100% again than getting that disability check from the VA every month.

I agree. Which is why I did not support this war.

But that is a far different reason than "I'm too old to enlist" or "I've got a family to support". Ultimately, what you've just said - and correct me if I'm wrong - is that the larger cause does not outweigh - for you - the risks and dangers to yourself. And you've had first hand experience at seeing what some of those risks and dangers are.

To be honest, some of the injuries that people sustain, to me, are worse than death. But then we're back in Terri Schiavo territory.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham
I think my 100% disabled father would rather have his back 100% again than getting that disability check from the VA every month.

Indeed. My prayers and a salute to your Dad.

[Warham]

Thanks Bri.

I respect my father more than any man alive.

He served in the 101st during Vietnam. A draftee too.

:D