Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition & 'Inside

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Warham
What the hell are you talking about?

I've posted links to NATIONAL publications like Popular Mechanics, where some 300 experts were consulted on that article alone!

I'd like to see you post a link to a NATIONAL publication or magazine where your conspiracy kook theory is suggested in lieu of the official story.

If you want hundreds of articles, bucko, I'll post 'em.

You could post 1000s, Keeyth would make up one and say it's all he needs to prove you wrong.

[Satan]

Originally posted by diamondD
If it was destroyed by detonation as you are trying to imply, there would have been detonations going off all down the building. It started from the top and pancaked on itself.


Why is this so hard to comprehend?

It's not hard to comprehend at all. Because that is precisely what did happen.

But don't take my word for it. Listen to the New York Firefighters who were on the scene.

[ashstralia]

geez... if the fucking things keeled over,

we'd be arguing about the bce's deliberate

weakening of some foyer wall. (evident in this top secret architectural archive!!)

FULLY FUEL LADEN (pardon the pun) FUCKING PLANES
HIT THE FUCKING BUILDINGS.

THIS CAUSED MASSIVE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.
WHEN THE BUILDINGS COULD STAND NO MORE,
THEY COLLAPSED.

THEY TOOK THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE,
STRAIGHT FUCKING DOWN.

seriously folks, you don't have to be a genius to look at
how those buildings were constructed and then visualise
the damage a 1000kilo bomb would do, on an optimum floor.

but a 6oo mph big plane with thousands of gallons of fuel?

when you see that second hit from behind, the sheer momentum,
then the explosion obliterates a good 75% of 3 or 4 floors.
i'm surprised the wtc's stayed standing as long as they did.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Satan
It's not hard to comprehend at all. Because that is precisely what did happen.

But don't take my word for it. Listen to the New York Firefighters who were on the scene.

If it's true they pulled it, why didn't they at least tell their own people to get out?

You think NYFD is gonna deliberately kill a bunch of their fellow firefighters to enable the BSCE agenda? I guarantee you wouldn't walk up to one in NYC and float that theory. Not without getting knocked on your ass.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by ashstralia

seriously folks, you don't have to be a genius to look at
how those buildings were constructed and then visualise
the damage a 1000kilo bomb would do, on an optimum floor.

but a 6oo mph big plane with thousands of gallons of fuel?

when you see that second hit from behind, the sheer momentum,
then the explosion obliterates a good 75% of 3 or 4 floors.
i'm surprised the wtc's stayed standing as long as they did.

You forget that you are arguing with the TFBE. Reality be damned.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by ashstralia
geez... if the fucking things keeled over,

we'd be arguing about the bce's deliberate

weakening of some foyer wall. (evident in this top secret architectural archive!!)

FULLY FUEL LADEN (pardon the pun) FUCKING PLANES
HIT THE FUCKING BUILDINGS.

THIS CAUSED MASSIVE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.
WHEN THE BUILDINGS COULD STAND NO MORE,
THEY COLLAPSED.

THEY TOOK THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE,
STRAIGHT FUCKING DOWN.

seriously folks, you don't have to be a genius to look at
how those buildings were constructed and then visualise
the damage a 1000kilo bomb would do, on an optimum floor.

but a 6oo mph big plane with thousands of gallons of fuel?

when you see that second hit from behind, the sheer momentum,
then the explosion obliterates a good 75% of 3 or 4 floors.
i'm surprised the wtc's stayed standing as long as they did.

We have covered and killed your explanation ten times over in this thread. JET FUEL WILL NOT BURN HOT ENOUGH OR LONG ENOUGH TO MELT STEEL WITH OUT AIR PRESSURE TO HELP CONCENTRATION IN ONE SPOT.
Also, ALMOST NO JET FUEL ENTERED TOWER NUMBER TWO. It all went out into the air and burned up immediately.

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by Keeyth
We have covered and killed your explanation ten times over in this thread. JET FUEL WILL NOT BURN HOT ENOUGH OR LONG ENOUGH TO MELT STEEL WITH OUT AIR PRESSURE TO HELP CONCENTRATION IN ONE SPOT.
Also, ALMOST NO JET FUEL ENTERED TOWER NUMBER TWO. It all went out into the air and burned up immediately.

bullshit. you are deluded.

[Keeyth]

Gimme a break. You are obviously clueless.

[diamondD]

I just watched the documentary 9/11 again for the first time since the original airing on CBS. The camera is aimed right at the burning section on the 2nd tower when it collapses. You can see it buckle and there's nothing resembling an explosion. You can hear the sound from the ground perspective and all you can hear is the rumble when it starts to come down.

There are no other sounds resembling explosions like you would hear in a controlled demolition. Especially the type needed to bring down one of the world's largest buildings.

You people need to wake the hell up. It's right in front of your face if you can look at it with an open mind. You just want it so bad you can't let it go...

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
If it's true they pulled it, why didn't they at least tell their own people to get out?

You think NYFD is gonna deliberately kill a bunch of their fellow firefighters to enable the BSCE agenda? I guarantee you wouldn't walk up to one in NYC and float that theory. Not without getting knocked on your ass.

All it would take would be one really dirty cop on the inside.

Perhaps the very same dirty cop who happenned to be working for the BCE in Iraq when a lot of "terraist" explosions happenned there.

And who just happenned to be in London last summer when the Subways got hit.

And guess where he was recently when some shit went down in Jordan?

I give you the world's dirtiest, filthiest piece of shit cop.......



......Bernie "the hit man" Kerik

[diamondD]

No, it would take a lot more than "one dirty cop". LOL Ths is a new one. :D


Like I said, you just walk up to someone in real life, a NYFD member, and tell him this crap. Could you?


And isn't it spelled "happened"?

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
The WTC concrete floors were supported by two things:

1) The inner steel core

2) The outer steel frame

According to the Official BCE Cover Story© the inner core was melted/twisted/weakened by the jet fuel.

Concrete does not conduct heat very well, so this temperature would not have spread from the inner core to the outer frame even if the story was true.

So, assuming that the building's collapse was a simple matter of a gravity driven chain reaction, with one floor dropping onto another, and the resulting weight taking out each successive floor like a set of downward dominoes, then what happenned to the outer frame?

The bolts holding the concrete floors to the frame likely would have snapped under such pressure, but the frame itself should have fallen outward or twisted in the wreckage. Yet only one significant chunk of the frame survived the demolition. The lower right corner of one of the towers, I believe...



On the other hand, explosive charges which pulverized the concrete and turned it into dust would have also done the same thing to the metal frame, as the thermite explosives burn hot enough to liquify the steel.

That picture is one of many pieces of the frame that were still standing. It's just one of the more famous. Go rewatch that 9/11 documentary and you'll see where all of the outer frame is.It's all piled up on top of itself. There was a lot of empty space underneath the towers for subway rails. It was several stories deep.


But be sure to take off that TFB when you are watching it tho.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by diamondD
I just watched the documentary 9/11 again for the first time since the original airing on CBS. The camera is aimed right at the burning section on the 2nd tower when it collapses. You can see it buckle and there's nothing resembling an explosion. You can hear the sound from the ground perspective and all you can hear is the rumble when it starts to come down.

There are no other sounds resembling explosions like you would hear in a controlled demolition. Especially the type needed to bring down one of the world's largest buildings.

You people need to wake the hell up. It's right in front of your face if you can look at it with an open mind. You just want it so bad you can't let it go...

Dude, how many controlled demolitions have you seen?? Many times there is no outside indication at all that explosives are going off inside, and the building just collapses in on itself as if it were melting.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Dude, how many controlled demolitions have you seen?? Many times there is no outside indication at all that explosives are going off inside, and the building just collapses in on itself as if it were melting.

Making shit up again ??

Idiot...

[Keeyth]

Whatever, dude. You can look up some on the 'net and see that I'm right, or if it's more your speed, go watch an episode of Maximum Exposure and see it.