Karl Rove Shoots His Big-Fat, Chickenhawk Mouth Off!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by thome
My freind my poor delusional friend OUR Government sent the troops
over there we us you and i Bush Rummy durbin did not kill any of our troops Silly Man!!!!!!!!they were killed by the iraqis. If the iraqis wouldn't have resisted in this No one would have died dont come back at me and say they had
to resist because then i will think you a Fool
WAKE UP DAMN SHIT FUK CRAP

Shit stain says what?

[ODShowtime]

that's funny

[Warham]

ha ha

[thome]

Hey nick That is funny Respond to my BUSH killed our soldiers Or
does the cat have your tounge

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by thome
Hey nick That is funny Respond to my BUSH killed our soldiers Or
does the cat have your tounge

Um, that's not what I said twat! At least get the quote correct!

[FORD]

Originally posted by academic punk
Who was the South Carolinan who birthed "dirty politics" and died of a brain tumor at the age of 40?

Just asking...

Lee "Satan" Atwater?

[BigBadBrian]

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Originally posted by LoungeMachine


Unprepared, under equipped, with no plan for an "insurgency"

You see, that's just it.

This administration WAS underprepared for the post-war aftermath.
There's no doubt about that.

Nobody could predict what would happen. That's my point entirely. Rummy the Dummy should've had more boots on the ground over there to handle the contingencies that came up. Noooooo......

However, I never agreed with the actual execution of the actual battle plan. We should have had more divisions and more firepower on the ground to absolutely cut off and annihilate any remaining Iraqi forces willing to fight after the initiial contact was made. We had the material, manpower, and willpower to make it happen but Rumsfeld caved to the oppositon who were screaming about money. He balked and decided to fight this fucking war on the cheap. Cheap...yeah, it's been more expensive in the long run, both in lives and money.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by FORD
Lee "Satan" Atwater?

'Tis.

Funny what karma will do, eh?

[LoungeMachine]

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Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You see, that's just it.

This administration WAS underprepared for the post-war aftermath.
There's no doubt about that.

Nobody could predict what would happen. That's my point entirely. Rummy the Dummy should've had more boots on the ground over there to handle the contingencies that came up. Noooooo......

However, I never agreed with the actual execution of the actual battle plan. We should have had more divisions and more firepower on the ground to absolutely cut off and annihilate any remaining Iraqi forces willing to fight after the initiial contact was made. We had the material, manpower, and willpower to make it happen but Rumsfeld caved to the oppositon who were screaming about money. He balked and decided to fight this fucking war on the cheap. Cheap...yeah, it's been more expensive in the long run, both in lives and money.

No one told ME Hell froze over........

Brie and I agree?

[BigBadBrian]

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Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No one told ME Hell froze over........

Brie and I agree?

Beers.

I'm buying.

[LoungeMachine]

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Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Beers.

I'm buying.

[FORD]

OK, first the bizarro Supreme Court vote, now this.....

Did I wake up in an alternative universe this morning??

[Steve Savicki]

John Kerry speaks

"Just hours after learning about an outrageous speech delivered by Karl Rove, President Bush's most senior advisor, I went to the Senate floor -- and I spoke from my heart. I want to share those words with you -- not as a Democrat or Republican, not as a liberal or conservative -- but as an American.

I've attached part of my speech to the end of this email. But, before you read what I said, look again at what Karl Rove said:

(P)erhaps the most important difference between conservatives and liberals can be found in the area of national security. Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.

I hope you will join me right now in signing an open letter to the President urging him to thoroughly reject Karl Rove's purposeful attack on the patriotism of those who dare ask the tough questions that best protect American troops. Sign our open letter to President Bush now:

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

This isn't the first time that Karl Rove and other White House officials have sought to divide America in ways that make it harder to keep our country safe and our democracy strong. But, it should be the last. That's why I ended my speech with a call on President Bush to fire Karl Rove. It is the only way the President can make it clear that he rejects Rove's effort to distort one of the most unified and patriotic moments in American history into a cheap, divisive, political applause line.

That, of course, is what is most outrageous about Karl Rove's claim that President Bush's political opponents offered "therapy and understanding for our attackers." It isn't true. In the days after 9/11, there were no Democrats, no Republicans. We were all Americans, standing together. President Bush acknowledged that unity in a clear and compelling way at the time.

Now, Karl Rove is purposely twisting those days of unity in order to divide us for political gain. I hope you will act right now to join a growing chorus of Americans calling on the President to fire Karl Rove.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

Please act right now. Sign our open letter to the President and pass it on to others. All Americans have to speak with one powerful voice in response to this outrage. I will continue speaking out and I know I can count on you to stand with me.

Sincerely,

John Kerry
Make America Safe, Not Divided
Excerpts of remarks by Senator John Kerry on the Senate floor on Thursday, June 23.

"None of us here will ever forget the hours after September 11... and the remarkable response of the American people as we came together as one to answer the attack on our homeland.... [I]t brought out the best of all of us in America.

That spirit of our country should never be reduced to a cheap, divisive political applause line from anyone who speaks for the President of the United States.

I am proud, as my colleagues on this side are, that after September 11, all of the people of this country rallied to President Bush's call for unity to meet the danger. There were no Democrats, there were no Republicans, there were only Americans. That is why it is really hard to believe that last night in New York... the most senior adviser to the President of the United States [was] purposely twisting those days of unity in order to divide us for political gain.

Rather than focusing attention on Osama bin Laden and finding him or rather than focusing attention on just smashing al-Qaida and uniting our effort, as we have been, he is, instead, challenging the patriotism of every American who is every bit as committed to fighting terror as is he.

Just days after 9/11, the Senate voted 98 to nothing, and the House voted 420 to 1, to authorize President Bush to use all necessary and appropriate force against terror. And after the bipartisan vote, President Bush said: "I'm gratified that the Congress has united so powerfully by taking this action. It sends a clear message. Our people are together and we will prevail."

That is not the message that was sent by Karl Rove in New York City last night. Last night, he said: "No more needs to be said about" their "motives."

I think a lot more needs to be said about Karl Rove's motives because they are not the people's motives... They are not the motives of a nation that found unity in that critical moment--Democrat and Republican alike, all of us as Americans.

If the President really believes his own words, if those words have meaning, he should at the very least expect a public apology from Karl Rove. And frankly, he ought to fire him. If the President of the United States knows the meaning of those words, then he ought to listen to the plea of Kristen Breitweiser, who lost her husband when the Twin Towers came crashing down. She said: "If you are going to use 9/11, use it to make this nation safer than it was on 9/11."

Karl Rove doesn't owe me an apology and he doesn't owe Democrats an apology. He owes the country an apology. He owes Kristen Breitweiser and a lot of people like her, those families, an apology. He owes an apology to every one of those families who paid the ultimate price on 9/11 and expect their government to be doing all possible to keep the unity of their country and to fight an effective war on terror.

The fact is, millions of Americans...are asking Washington for honesty, for results, and for leadership--not for political division. Before Karl Rove delivers another political assault, he ought to stop and think about those families and the unity of 9/11. "

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Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You see, that's just it.

This administration WAS underprepared for the post-war aftermath.
There's no doubt about that.

Nobody could predict what would happen. That's my point entirely. Rummy the Dummy should've had more boots on the ground over there to handle the contingencies that came up. Noooooo......

The British were questioning why the US was failing to consider possible outcomes. (They have more experience fighting "colonial wars.")

[FORD]

Only problem with Kerry's "letter" there is..... who do you think reads Junior's mail to him in the first place