Karl Rove Shoots His Big-Fat, Chickenhawk Mouth Off!

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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49219

    #61
    Re: John Kerry speaks

    Originally posted by Steve Savicki
    (by John Kerry)
    This isn't the first time that Karl Rove and other White House officials have sought to divide America in ways that make it harder to keep our country safe and our democracy strong.
    But, it should be the last. That's why I ended my speech with a call on President Bush to fire Karl Rove. It is the only way the President can make it clear that he rejects Rove's effort to distort one of the most unified and patriotic moments in American history into a cheap, divisive, political applause line.
    No, it isn't:

    "However in 2000, no Democrat was smeared. In fact, the Republicans smeared one of their own. During the 2000 Republican primaries, George W. Bush and John McCain were locked in a close battle. After losing decisively in New Hampshire, the Bush team was very worried. They were facing a war veteran in John McCain that was better prepared and more experienced than their guy. With the South Carolina primary looming, the Bush Campaign had to think of something. Understanding that South Carolina could be a turning point in the campaign, they decided to run a 'push poll' in the state. A push poll is a form of pushing your point across to your voters by putting it in the form of a poll. That was exactly what the Bush Campaign did.

    "According to Al Franken's book, The Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell them, this was how Bush's push-poll went.

    'Caller: Hi. I am calling from an independent polling company and I was wondering if I could have a minute of your time to conduct a survey.

    'Unsuspecting Voter: Uh...sure

    'Caller: Great! If you knew that Senator John McCain was a cheat and a liar and a fraud, and that he has fathered an illegitimate black child, would you be more like to vote for him or less likely to vote for him?

    'Unsuspecting Voter: Hmm. Probably less."

    Bush engaged in this type of push polling and negative advertising right before the South Carolina Primary. Unfortunately for McCain, he had to explain to everyone he had not fathered an illegitimate black child. The truth was that McCain had the heart to adopt a girl named Bridget from Bangladesh. Thanks to Bush's Campaign tactics, perfected by advisor Karl Rove a close friend by the name of Lee Atwater, Bridget was McCain's downfall in South Carolina.

    But that was not the only stunt Bush polled in South Carolina. Other rumors arose, saying that McCain was gay; that he was pro-abortion; that his wife had arrest warrants for giving alcohol to minors; that while Senator of Arizona he had voted for the largest tax increase ever; and a whole long list of others. All of those were obviously false. The tactic worked to perfection as Bush won the South Carolina primary, which had a crippling impact on McCain's chances for the Republican nomination. If it had not been for the fraudulent attacks in South Carolina, there might as well be a different president in the White House today.

    With the smear tactic perfected, the Bush Administration was ready to try it out during the 2002 midterm elections. Obviously there was a lot at stake that November as both political parties were trying to grab a majority in Congress. Bush's senior advisor Karl Rove saw the Georgia Senate race as an opportunity. The incumbent Democrat Max Cleland was running against a very competitive Republican challenger by the name of Saxby Chambliss. Every political insider predicted that it would be a close election. And until the very last week, Cleland was ahead in the polls, almost comfortably. Karl Rove and the Republican National Committee helped fund advertisements that showed Cleland's face next to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden because they claimed he voted against a defense bill. It suggested that Cleland was unpatriotic because he wasn't supporting our troops.

    Many people forget who Max Cleland really is. Out of all the legislative leaders throughout our country, it is easy to say that John McCain and Max Cleland were most impacted by their service in the Vietnam War. McCain was a prisoner of war for years. Cleland lost both legs in combat. Both of these honorable men deserve our gratitude. It is ironic that both suffered a similar fate when facing a conservative Republican opponent. Except Cleland was attacked for being unpatriotic. But what should Cleland have given to his country, besides both of his legs, to finally convince Republicans that he was patriotic? It is amazing to me how fearless they are in going after distinguished war veterans. Cleland ended up losing that election, falling victim to the more-perfected right-wing attack machine.

    We now sit here in the same predicament. Just recently, John F. Kerry was attacked for doing what he is most proud of - serving his country. Some Republicans claim there is doubt to whether or not he deserved his metals in Vietnam, proving once again that they are desperately deflecting attention away from the issues. On April 21st, John F. Kerry released his military records on his web site. I invite both his doubters and supporters to pay his site a visit at Johnkerry.com."

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    Karl ROVE is a big steamy pile of shit in my estimation.

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    • DLR'sCock
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2937

      #62
      Rove is one of the lowest forms of life, scumbag, manipulating, murderous, self surving piece of shit. His day will come as it does for everyone, becuase no matter how far and how fast you run, you can't hide from the truth.

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      • Steve Savicki
        • Jan 2004
        • 3937

        #63
        Originally posted by FORD
        Dean has nothing to apologize for.
        Does this mean the conservatives who now regret their vote will be apologizing to Dean?
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        • thome
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Mar 2005
          • 6678

          #64
          Cant we all just get along

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14589

            #65
            That letter is a snoozefest, much like the man who wrote it.

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            • Keeyth
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Apr 2004
              • 3010

              #66
              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              You gotta admit...that's pretty much the truth.

              That is just as insulting coming from you, you Rove wannabe. You oughta be made to apologize too, because that is just plain bullshit.
              "Bush'sBigBadBrainBrian" lol!
              Knowing and believing are two very different things.

              It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58827

                #67
                Originally posted by Steve Savicki
                Does this mean the conservatives who now regret their vote will be apologizing to Dean?
                Yes, but then they also need to apologize to about half the country as well. I'm willing to forgive them, as long as they help us throw the BCE out and make sure it's permanent this time.

                If this country is to survive at all, those fuckers must be cut out of the GOP machine once and for all.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • thome
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6678

                  #68
                  Dont know nuttin about Rove: that aside why would you even think Mr
                  Kerry is worth your fingers on a keyboard after all the resounding
                  humiliation he was responsible for to his party his family and his
                  country .

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                  • Keeyth
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3010

                    #69
                    Originally posted by thome
                    Dont know nuttin about Rove: that aside why would you even think Mr
                    Kerry is worth your fingers on a keyboard after all the resounding
                    humiliation he was responsible for to his party his family and his
                    country .
                    Humiliation? Listen Busheep, he won the second largest number of votes ever recorded for a candidate... ...and HE didn't cheat. Bush's party just found a way to cheat this time that they wouldn't get caught at. (ie; Electronic voting machines with no physical record.)
                    Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                    It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                    • bobgnote
                      Banned
                      • May 2005
                      • 627

                      #70
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      Bullshit.


                      Rove will apologize when Hell freezes over
                      Liberals are really only the Mr. Hat to the Conservative Mr. Garrison. Neither will have much left, upcoming.

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #71
                        Rove shouldn't apologize.

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                        • Keeyth
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 3010

                          #72
                          Originally posted by bobgnote
                          Liberals are really only the Mr. Hat to the Conservative Mr. Garrison. Neither will have much left, upcoming.
                          That would make you Mr. Hanky you piece of s**t!
                          Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                          It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                          • Keeyth
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3010

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Warham
                            Rove shouldn't apologize.
                            You're right. He should resign. It would be the best thing to happen to this country in a long time. A step in the right direction finally.
                            Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                            It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                            • thome
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 6678

                              #74
                              Keyth

                              That just means there are more idiots(maybe to harsh of a word i don't want to hurt your feelings) of voting age than the last
                              election .remember reality its within your grasp.
                              THINK LISTEN LEARN

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                              • Keeyth
                                Crazy Ass Mofo
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3010

                                #75
                                Originally posted by thome
                                That just means there are more idiots(maybe to harsh of a word i don't want to hurt your feelings) of voting age than the last
                                election .remember reality its within your grasp.
                                THINK LISTEN LEARN
                                Oh my, you ARE an exceptionally stupid sheep, aren't you? How does it feel to be the human equivalent to an ostrich?? Or is your head up your ass instead of buried in the sand?
                                Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                                It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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