Find your own ammo against bible waving nutjobs!

[kentuckyklira]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/

There´s lots of ridiculous stuff to be found in the bible, all you have to do is look!:D

[BigBadBrian]

I don't believe this was ever intended to be a religious column per se.

I am not Jewish and don't persecute those of that faith.

I don't believe anyone else here that posts does that either.

I am not Muslim and don't persecute anyone of that faith.

I don't believe anyone else here that posts does that either.

FORD, I believe you should close this thread. It's your call, however.

[Hardrock69]

Why?

Religion is just a valid subject as Republican Idiocy (and they tend to go hand in hand in many cases).

[aesop]

You're a total idiot...



PS--- I like your tatoo...

[Hardrock69]

Thanks dumbass.

Nobody on this board has ever seen my tattoo.

[aesop]

It's very gay, nontheless... Trust me.

[FORD]

While I take great exception to the sickening things that have been done in the name of religion, both historically, and by current entities such as Al Qaeda, the BCE , and the Likud of Israel, I don't believe that justifies the wholesale ridicule of anyone's religious belief systems.

Most religions on this planet, including Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, are religions of peace as taught by their original founders, and have been manipulated by evil individuals such as the Crusaders and the modern day hypocrites previously mentioned.

The policy of the Front Line is tolerance for belief systems. That doesn't mean you have to agree with someone's interpretation of religion or with someone else's lack of beliefs. Just don't need the wholesale bashing.

As for biblegateway.com, I consider the site a great resource and use it all the time. I have several Bibles in my bookcase, but only so much room on the desk, ya know. It's much easier to be able to pull up a scripture in a tabbed browser window.

Now all this being said, I'm going to leave this thread open for now, and hope some constructive discussion comes out of it.

[aesop]

ADULTERY: "Fire in the Bosom"
The seventh of the ten commandments ("Thou shalt not commit adultery" [Ex. 20:15, Deut. 5:18]) does not refer to adultery as generally thought of today. In the Old Testament a married man, but not a married woman, could have sex outside of marriage and not be an adulterer. Under the Hebrew patriarchal system, a man commits adultery only if the sex is with another man's wife or virginal betrothed--in effect a property crime analogous, as Judith Romney Wegner puts it, to stealing the other man's cow. (On women as property, see GENDER.)
The penalty for adultery is death for both parties (Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22). In the case of a betrothed virgin, she is considered guilty of consent, and is therefore to die with the man, if the incident occurred in the city and she did not scream for help (Deut. 22:23-27).

The book of Numbers (5:12-31) provides for a trial by ordeal in cases where a man suspects his wife of adultery but has no proof. The man, being moved by a "spirit of jealousy," shall bring his wife and a "jealousy offering" to the priest, who will mix holy water with dust from the temple floor and make the woman drink it. If she has "lain with" no man but her husband, this "bitter water" will not cause "the curse," but if she is guilty of adultery, "her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot," and she will be "a curse among her people." (The Hebrew in this passage is too obscure to be interpreted with confidence [Sakenfeld, Levine]. It has been variously interpreted as referring, in the case of guilt, to miscarriage [Snaith], a prolapsed uterus [Meeks], inability to become pregnant, and abdominal-type pains [Levine].)

Adultery is often used in the Old Testament as a metaphor for the unfaithfulness toward God of the people of Israel and Judah, who "go a-whoring after other gods" (Judg. 2:17). God speaks in Jer. 3:8 of divorcing Israel for her adultery, then "her treacherous sister Judah . . . played the harlot also." The prophet Hosea deliberately marries an adulteress to dramatize God's dilemma with the backsliding children of Israel.

The adultery metaphor takes its most graphic form in Ezekiel 23, describing in detail the allegorical promiscuity of the sisters Oholah and Oholibah, adulterous wives of Yahweh.

The book of Proverbs extols the wisdom of avoiding adulterous situations. "Can a man take fire in his bosom," it asks, "and his clothes not be burned?" (Adultery "is a fire," says Job [31:12], "that consumeth to destruction.") The commandment against adultery, we are told in Proverbs, helps "keep thee from the evil woman." The book describes "a young man devoid of understanding" who is lured to the house of "a woman with the attire of an harlot." Catching him and kissing him, she says, "I have decked my bed . . . with fine linen of Egypt . . . Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning," for "(my husband) is not at home." But though "stolen waters are sweet," says Proverbs, "he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife . . . lacketh understanding," and the house of the adulteress "is the way to hell" (6:23-32, 7:4-27).

In two biblical cases, resisting adulterous advances leads to false accusations. In Genesis, Joseph is accused by Potiphar's wife, herself the aggressor, of making sexual advances, and is sent to prison (see JOSEPH AND POTIPHAR'S WIFE). In the Apocrypha, Susanna, the wife of Joakim, is falsely accused of adultery by two elders when she resists their attempt to seduce her (see SUSANNA AND THE ELDERS). Joseph prospers despite the injustice, and the young hero Daniel saves the day for Susanna.

Not only is the seventh commandment reaffirmed in the New Testament (Matt. 19:18, Luke 18:20, Rom. 13:9, James 2:11), but adultery is broadened to include even thinking about committing it. "Whoever looks at a woman with lust," says Jesus Christ in Matt. 5:28, "has committed adultery with her already in his heart." Jesus also states that adultery includes remarriage after divorce (Matt. 19:9, Luke 16:18).

Still, one of the Bible's best-known passages speaks of forgiveness for adultery (as for all sin), not punishment. Scribes and Pharisees bring to Jesus "a woman taken in adultery, in the very act" (John 8:3-11). They remind him that an adulteress should be stoned, "but what do you say?"

"Let him who is without sin among you," replies Jesus, "cast the first stone." The accusers leave one by one, leaving none to condemn her. "Neither do I condemn you," Jesus tells the adulteress. "Go, and sin no more."

Orazio de Ferrari, Christ and the Adulteress / McMullen Museum of Art

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Discuss...

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by FORD
While I take great exception to the sickening things that have been done in the name of religion, both historically, and by current entities such as Al Qaeda, the BCE , and the Likud of Israel, I don't believe that justifies the wholesale ridicule of anyone's religious belief systems.

Most religions on this planet, including Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, are religions of peace as taught by their original founders, and have been manipulated by evil individuals such as the Crusaders and the modern day hypocrites previously mentioned.

The policy of the Front Line is tolerance for belief systems. That doesn't mean you have to agree with someone's interpretation of religion or with someone else's lack of beliefs. Just don't need the wholesale bashing.

As for biblegateway.com, I consider the site a great resource and use it all the time. I have several Bibles in my bookcase, but only so much room on the desk, ya know. It's much easier to be able to pull up a scripture in a tabbed browser window.

Now all this being said, I'm going to leave this thread open for now, and hope some constructive discussion comes out of it.

Good call!

People use passages from the Bible, especially the Old Testament, to make their often radical points all the time. biblegateway.com is great to counter such arguments as it helps find quotes that either back an opposite opinion or show how out of date a vast part of the contents of the part of the Bible quoted are.

[Seshmeister]

What's with all the cock?

General scriptures concerning'cock' (Matthew 26:34,74,75; Mark 13:35;14:30,68,72)

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
[B]What's with all the cock?

You mean the little German kids? Ask the starter of this thread.

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by FORD
While I take great exception to the sickening things that have been done in the name of religion, both historically, and by current entities such as Al Qaeda, the BCE , and the Likud of Israel, I don't believe that justifies the wholesale ridicule of anyone's religious belief systems.

yeah, but the dumb kraut's an atheist!

at least he could have the balls to be a monotheist.

or a polynonomicroegotist.

and his sad cock-rock sucks.

[ashstralia]

wow, i made a new word;

'polynonomicroegotist'.

[Nickdfresh]

And some can find the meaning and good in the Bible and seperate it from the retarded spam placed in there by the fools of mankind.

The Jefferson Bible

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth
Extracted Textually from the Gospels

Compiled by Thomas Jefferson

Edited by Eyler Robert Coates, Sr.

. . . Thomas Jefferson believed that the ethical system of Jesus was the finest the world has ever seen. In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.

This presentation of The Jefferson Bible offers the text as selected and arranged by Jefferson in two separate editions: one edition uses a revised King James Version of the biblical texts, corrected in accordance with the findings of modern scholarship; the second edition uses the original unrevised KJV. The actual verses of the Bible used for both editions are those chosen by Jefferson. Visitors should find the revised KJV text much easier to read and understand. Those seeking the precise English version Mr. Jefferson used when making his compilation can click on "Unrevised KJV text."

Link

[Pastor Bruce S.]

What Jesus did

Being a Pastor, I had to interject myself when the defamation of the Bible, the book of God, is set forth.

Concerning the Old and New Tetstament. The Old Testament and the Commandments are not rules to gain your salvation. It is your faith in Jesus Christ that determines your eternal life. It's through his merits and not our own works that gains us entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. The Old Testament is great for examples in character studies and is a prophetic book as far as the coming of our Savior.

Most Bible believing churches study the gospel in the New Testament. It chronicles the life of Jesus. And it's Jesus that we have as an example on how to treat and love each other. The text in the New Testament is more of a guideline on how to live as people. How to live righteous with dignity, conviction, and love.

The Bible is the word of God and is 100% accurate as far as prophecy is concerned. We are now living in the end times or last days. With your bitterness torwards the word of God, the enemy has a foothold on you. I'll pray for you and you should pray. Together we can help you see the light and you will receive Christ in your heart. Keep the faith.

Pastor Bruce Switzer
Living Way Church