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Originally posted by DR CHIP Believing in God requires faith...
Faith cannot be proven...
Having faith does not make one irrational, because faith can be based on genuinely rational conclusions....
Nobody is going to convince someone into believing by the "better" argument....
The Bible has many mysteries and very difficult subjects to resolve (even to those with faith), it will always be defended by those with faith (even if the arguments are weak) and will be the object of ridicule or at least treated suspisciously by those who don't have faith....
But man ain't it fun to get dirty and roll in the dirt on subjects that have so MUCH meaning....especially if there is a God!
Right on.....if you have faith in something, it cannot be argued away.
In fact, even if somebody believed something totally insane, like "GW BUsh is honest as the day is long", if you try to convince them otherwise, they will cling even more fervently to their belief.
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Originally posted by FORD ....Most of which are fronts for Pat Robertson's African diamond mines.
Hi Ford. That's what's great about you. Always got to ruffle some feathers. But you know what friend. The Good pastor thinks you are "A" "OKAY!"
Before you make any accusations at Mr. Robertson, know that it could just be hearsay or rumors. And if what you're insinuating is true, Mr. Robertson's fortune in diamonds does not take away from God's word.
If put under the microscope long enough, you evenually will find fault with any believer of the Christian faith. Afterall, we are all human and humans live in a fallen world. No man besides Jesus was sinless nor is anyone perfect, including myself. It is through Jesus that we have a road to salvation. That is why he is revered by us Christians.
You see my amigo, people's approach to the Bible is all wrong. People are isoteric when reading the Bible. Isoteric meaning that when you reads that Bible, he's going into it trying to see what he could break down, interpret, find fault in, and state his case. When one reads the Bible exoterically, he grows with every word. An exoteric reader of the Bible lets the words come to him and work through him thus the Bible is explaining itself to him. By reading the Bible this way, he understands the words and spirit of the Bible. That's the difference.
Remember, "One weak without the Bible...
Makes one weak."
Hi Roth Army members. Pastor Bruce is here to lend his advice and wisdom to all of you. Are you stuck in a bind, confused, or lost? Well, now you can PM me for counsel or prayer.
Originally posted by FORD ....Most of which are fronts for Pat Robertson's African diamond mines.
Hi Ford. That's what's great about you. Always got to ruffle some feathers. But you know what friend. The Good pastor thinks you are "A" "OKAY!"
Before you make any accusations at Mr. Robertson, know that it could just be hearsay or rumors. And if what you're insinuating is true, Mr. Robertson's fortune in diamonds does not take away from God's word.
If put under the microscope long enough, you evenually will find fault with any believer of the Christian faith. Afterall, we are all human and humans live in a fallen world. No man besides Jesus was sinless nor is anyone perfect, including myself. It is through Jesus that we have a road to salvation. That is why he is revered by us Christians.
You see my amigo, people's approach to the Bible is all wrong. People are isoteric when reading the Bible. Isoteric meaning that when you reads that Bible, he's going into it trying to see what he could break down, interpret, find fault in, and state his case. When one reads the Bible exoterically, he grows with every word. An exoteric reader of the Bible lets the words come to him and work through him thus the Bible is explaining itself to him. By reading the Bible this way, he understands the words and spirit of the Bible. That's the difference.
Remember, "One week without the Bible...
Makes one weak."
Love,
Your Pastor Bruce S.
Hi Roth Army members. Pastor Bruce is here to lend his advice and wisdom to all of you. Are you stuck in a bind, confused, or lost? Well, now you can PM me for counsel or prayer.
I arrived at my beliefs through careful observation of my fellow man and nature, careful studying and consideration of the Good Book, and logical reasoning using the power of deduction.
Faith in Jesus Christ is a faith based on reason and common sense.
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