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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    How, in the Katrina debate, can we be talking about racism?

    How, in the Katrina debate, can we be talking about racism?
    Star Parker




    September 12, 2005


    "The charges of racism-inspired foot-dragging isn't just nonsense. It's pernicious nonsense."

    This is how the New York Daily News called it regarding charges, from the usual circle of black leaders, that the rescue efforts in New Orleans were slow because the victims were black. The Daily News is right. Except it's even worse than the paper appreciates.

    What we are witnessing is a well-honed black political public-relations operation geared to obfuscation, stoking hatred and fear, and nurturing helplessness and dependence among black citizens. Such efforts keep black politicians powerful, diversity businesses prosperous and blacks poor.

    The fact that the handling of the disaster caused by Hurricane Katrina was a massive botch job at all levels of government is beyond the doubt of any sober observer. Such operations demand precise cooperation and coordination among local, state and federal authorities. It appears evident that the performance at and between each of these levels of government was abysmal.

    However, government incompetence isn't news. And, unfortunately, it's also not news when black politicians call it racism when the unfortunate victims of this incompetence, because they are poor and unprepared, are largely black.

    It is inconceivable that there could have been some all-knowing racist guiding hand orchestrating the chaos and disorganization that characterized what occurred. Furthermore, how, when black politicians themselves played a prominent role in what happened, can we be talking about racism?

    The first line of authority in emergency management, all agree, is local. It appears that Ray Nagin, New Orleans black mayor, was grossly negligent. Existing and detailed written evacuation plans for New Orleans were ignored while the mayor made sporadic decision after decision as if there were no such plans. A fleet of school and transit buses that could have evacuated 12,000 citizens per run was not used and left on low ground and flooded.

    Where was black congressman William Jefferson, who has represented New Orleans for eight terms in the U.S. House of Representatives?

    Floodwaters poured into New Orleans when the 17th Street Canal levee burst. It had been known and publicized for years that New Orleans was at risk because this levee was not capable of withstanding a Category 5 storm. Making the necessary investment to upgrade this levee required federal funds, and therefore in Jefferson's area of responsibility.

    In an interview on "Hannity and Colmes," Jefferson indicated he had been involved in failed efforts over the years to get these funds. However, given the risks to which his constituents were exposed, one would think that the congressman would have been making a lot of noise about this.

    But Jefferson is a busy man. He's been the target of an FBI sting operation investigating possible public corruption and the possible illegal pocketing of hundreds of thousands of dollars in payoffs in an international business deal. In a raid on his house, the FBI found a large stash of cash in his freezer. Jefferson's lawyer told the press, "The congressman has lots of contacts. He's involved in advancing a lot of businesses on behalf of his constituents and states and in a number of countries throughout the world."

    It's too bad Jefferson couldn't have used his acumen for getting deals done to get the 17th Street Canal levee upgraded.

    "Hannity and Colmes" co-host Sean Hannity persisted and asked Jefferson, given his knowledge of the condition of the levee, when "we knew the storm was coming, why didn't we get the people out?"

    The congressman's reply: "Well, I'm not sure I know the answers to all those questions."

    Jesse Jackson is now touring through Louisiana. Where was he as Katrina thundered toward New Orleans, with a population almost 70 percent black and poor? He was in Venezuela embracing President Hugo Chavez, who the week before was in Cuba visiting his good friend Fidel Castro and who also includes among his friends Zimbabwe's despot, Robert Mugabe.

    It's time for those who really care about the condition of blacks to ask hard questions and be honest about the answers.

    Our government mechanism for dealing with emergencies must be repaired. The emergency management task for blacks is to get ourselves out of poverty.

    If we allow political opportunists to again allege racism to deflect our attention from solving the real problems of fixing our families and educating our children, surely more tragedy awaits us.


    Star Parker is president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education and author of 'Uncle Sam's Plantation.'

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  • DR CHIP
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2004
    • 618

    #2
    BAM

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    • DrMaddVibe
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6686

      #3
      It's a surefire way to get your face on tv if you shout out racist remarks.

      The louder and more unbelievable...the more airtime you get.
      http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...auders1zl5.gif
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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        The bigger question the thread title misses....


        Why is there even a need for a Katrina "debate'????

        It's 2005

        We're the richest nation in the world

        It's 4 years since 9/11 woke us up

        We have a REPUBLICAN controlled White House, Senate, and House


        I would have thought with ALL of this before us, we would have been PRETTY FUCKING GOOD AND READY IN ADVANCE.

        This wasn't an earthquake or terrorist attack giving no notice.

        We KNEW it was coming, and we witnessed the BEST our NATIONAL leaders could muster.


        pathetic. telling. ominous.


        We aint ready. And it's coming.
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • jcook11
          Commando
          • Sep 2004
          • 1281

          #5
          Originally posted by LoungeMachine
          The bigger question the thread title misses....


          Why is there even a need for a Katrina "debate'????

          It's 2005

          We're the richest nation in the world

          It's 4 years since 9/11 woke us up

          We have a REPUBLICAN controlled White House, Senate, and House


          I would have thought with ALL of this before us, we would have been PRETTY FUCKING GOOD AND READY IN ADVANCE.

          This wasn't an earthquake or terrorist attack giving no notice.



          We KNEW it was coming, and we witnessed the BEST our NATIONAL leaders could muster.


          pathetic. telling. ominous.


          We aint ready. And it's coming.
          What about the dinosaurs...depending on your timeline the earth was struck by a meteor about 60 million years ago....Who's fault FEMA , The US government or maybe the local level?

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32576

            #6
            Originally posted by jcook11
            What about the dinosaurs...depending on your timeline the earth was struck by a meteor about 60 million years ago....Who's fault FEMA , The US government or maybe the local level?
            You're almost too stupid for words

            Who's fucking your wife tonight now that she dumped your ass?


            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Cathedral
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6621

              #7
              The problem is the social culture blacks created for themselves.
              Nobody is keeping a black person down but the black person who refuses to better themself.
              I've been through rags to riches to rags back to riches, though the rags periods were not of my own doing, I didn't just give up and say, "Fuck it, Whats the point?"...I got my ass back out and reinvented myself.

              What's stopping anyone in this country from getting up in the morning and working towards improvement?
              Nothing i can see.

              I learned a long time ago that if you want to be successful then hang out with successful people.
              Surround yourself with ignorance that only goes after a handout and you'll be no better.

              This whole idea that just because i'm a white man means i owe the black man a free ride because of slavery is bullshit, nobody in my bloodline ever owned a slave, so it isn't my duty to feel guilt over that dark period in history.

              If anyone wants a better life then it is their responsibility alone to earn that lifestyle.
              If anyone thinks that the rest of the hard working population is going to do it for them, then they are in for a big surprise.

              Those who believe that anyone has the power to keep them down is guilty of selling themselves short and for the most part are simply too lazy to improve on their own lives.

              People are always saying to me, "Damn, it must be nice to have such nice things". But it didn't come without working my ass off for these nice things.
              I never stop job hunting, no matter what i'm doing or how much i make I am always in the market for a better position.
              Lots of people find an $8 an hour job and then just go to work everyday, they become comfortable if they can at least pay all the bills and don't even think about bettering themselves unless they fear their job is in jeopardy, I don't get that at all.

              The only way people can keep you down is if YOU let them keep you down.
              Screaming racism is just todays way of getting a few extra crumbs thrown your way, no more, no less.

              But i don't do "crumbs", I want the whole cake and THAT requires working for it.

              Man cannot satisfy a steak appetite on a bologna income, that's a fact.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59649

                #8
                Anybody who denies there was a racist element to how the Katrina disaster was handled, stay tuned....

                Watch what happens in Texas this weekend, and see if it isn't a world of difference.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • thome
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6678

                  #9
                  If you stand and face a hurricane you get what you played for.

                  What did they have 3 weeks warning?

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                  • eat her out JOE
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 12

                    #10
                    most of my ass was infested with crabs who did not contribute to society but made up for it by contrubuting solely to the fucking crime rate by my recurring pedophilia convictions.
                    Last edited by FORD; 09-21-2005, 08:29 PM.

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                    • Cathedral
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6621

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Anybody who denies there was a racist element to how the Katrina disaster was handled, stay tuned....

                      Watch what happens in Texas this weekend, and see if it isn't a world of difference.
                      Texas has already gone far and beyond what took place in Louisiana, and the storm hasn't even hit yet.

                      But Ford, I still get the impression that you don't hold the local government accountable for NOT executing any of the plans they had for such an event.
                      I see "Class" as being an issue more than racism in Nawlens.
                      That said, G.W. Bush clearly didn't place much importance on responding from the start which in my opinion is grounds for immediate removal from office.

                      He didn't see any reason to cut short his vacation and it didn't stop him from enjoying cake and ice cream at McCains party either.
                      If i weren't a believer in God i'd say it was unforgivable.
                      He's lucky I'm not his judge, that's for sure.

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                      • ALMOSTsaved
                        Veteran
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 2183

                        #12
                        Okay as someone who was born, raised and still living in South Mississippi, the place that was most devastated by Hurricane Katrina, I speaking for myself and all the others still living here wish eveyone would shut the fucking fuck up about Goddamn New Orleans.

                        Anyone from this area, who is experiencing this shit first hand knows New Orleans had it easy compared to here.

                        Everyone around here also knows it's the liberal media and the musicians who think they're politicians that exploited this "so called" racial bullshit conspiracy theory.

                        Enough!
                        Last edited by ALMOSTsaved; 09-21-2005, 08:42 PM.
                        I like to pay close attention to the things I'll forget later...

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                        • bueno bob
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22951

                          #13
                          I said a few weeks back that responsibility for one's self and one's family at the personal level was where accountability had to start. You got a class 5 hurricane coming at you, you know three weeks in advance and you fucking SIT THERE with your thumb up your ass, thinking "Oh, it won't be that bad"?

                          So far as I'm concerned, you asked for it. Myself? Poor, broke, destitute, wouldn't matter WHAT condition I was in - I'd fucking WALK myself out of there.

                          I do believe the government could have responded a bit quicker, but I truly feel that accountability for yourself and your family begins with YOU, not the U.S. government.
                          Twistin' by the pool.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59649

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cathedral

                            But Ford, I still get the impression that you don't hold the local government accountable for NOT executing any of the plans they had for such an event.
                            I see "Class" as being an issue more than racism in Nawlens.


                            Discrimination by "class" and by "race" often end up being the same thing, because the poorest of the poor are often racial "minorities". Especially in the South. As for the whole question of the local, state, and federal governments and who did what, I heard an analogy on the radio last week that made a lot of sense.

                            It was some retired colonel who was being invterviewed on Air America. I forget the man's name, but he compared the situation in New Orleans to what D-Day would have looked like without Eisenhower.

                            In other words, even IF you do have various people trying to move in with supplies, health care, and whatever else, if nobody is in charge and there's no plan, then the whole thing becomes chaotic.

                            Once the governor of Louisiana requests that a federal state of emergency be declared, and the White House acknowledges that request, then that responsibility, the role of Eisenhower, if you will, falls completely on the shoulders of FEMA, who by their very name itself exists to manage emergencies.

                            According to the White House's own website, that request was made and accepted on August 26, three days before the levee broke and the true emergency began. Yet FEMA was not on the scene until the following Friday, Sept. 2.

                            BCE/FEMA deserves the majority of the blame because they accepted the resposnibility to coordinate the response, and then left the city of New Orleans on its own for an entire week after the paperwork was signed.


                            That said, G.W. Bush clearly didn't place much importance on responding from the start which in my opinion is grounds for immediate removal from office.

                            He didn't see any reason to cut short his vacation and it didn't stop him from enjoying cake and ice cream at McCains party either.
                            If i weren't a believer in God i'd say it was unforgivable.
                            He's lucky I'm not his judge, that's for sure.
                            Verily......
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • ALMOSTsaved
                              Veteran
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 2183

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bueno bob
                              I said a few weeks back that responsibility for one's self and one's family at the personal level was where accountability had to start. You got a class 5 hurricane coming at you, you know three weeks in advance and you fucking SIT THERE with your thumb up your ass, thinking "Oh, it won't be that bad"?

                              So far as I'm concerned, you asked for it. Myself? Poor, broke, destitute, wouldn't matter WHAT condition I was in - I'd fucking WALK myself out of there.
                              Abso-fucking-lutely...However, it's not always a 3 week warning.
                              I like to pay close attention to the things I'll forget later...

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