John Kerry just can't keep his foot out of his mouth

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  • 4moreyears
    Commando
    • Oct 2004
    • 1245

    John Kerry just can't keep his foot out of his mouth



    this guy does not even have a fucking clue!!!



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    WASHINGTON - The White House accused Sen. John Kerry on Tuesday of troop-bashing, seizing on a comment the Democrat made to California students that those unable to navigate the country’s education system “get stuck in Iraq.”

    “Senator Kerry not only owes an apology to those who are serving, but also to the families of those who’ve given their lives in this,” White House press secretary Tony Snow said. “This is an absolute insult.”

    Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran and Bush’s rival in 2004, fired back, saying the president and his administration are the ones who owe U.S. troops an apology because they “misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it.”

    “This is the classic GOP playbook,” Kerry said in a harshly worded statement. “I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did. I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium.”

    One week before the midterm elections, the two parties are searching for any edge amid indications Democrats could take back the House and possibly win control of the Senate.

    Snow was asked about the comment which Kerry made during a campaign rally Monday for California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides. The White House spokesman was clearly ready, consulting his notes to read a fuller account of Kerry’s statement and unleashing a sharp attack.

    The Massachusetts senator, who is considering another presidential run in 2008, had opened his speech at Pasadena City College with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now “lives in a state of denial.”

    Then he said: “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

    Snow said the quote “fits a pattern” of negative remarks from Kerry about U.S. soldiers and suggested that whether Democratic candidates — particularly those running on their military service backgrounds — agree with their 2004 standard-bearer should be a campaign litmus test.

    Unsubstantiated allegations about Kerry’s Vietnam War heroism from a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth figured prominently in the 2004 Kerry-Bush race. Even Kerry has blamed his slow and uncertain response to the group’s claims for helping doom his White House chances.

    Snow said a lot of Americans have joined the military since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

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    “As for the notion that you can say this sort of thing about the troops and say you support them, it’s interesting,” the press secretary said.

    A potential rival to Kerry in 2008 — Republican Sen. John McCain — said in a statement that Kerry “owes an apology to the many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country’s call because they are patriots and not because of any deficiencies in their education.”

    Like Kerry, McCain is a decorated Vietnam veteran.

    House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, also called on Kerry to apologize, labeling his comments “disrespectful and insulting to the men and women serving in our military.”
    Last edited by 4moreyears; 10-31-2006, 03:53 PM.
  • amadeus
    Head Fluffer
    • Jun 2004
    • 204

    #2
    Somehow, someway, the anti-Bush people on here will find someway to spin this as a vast right-wing conspiracy against Kerry. It's as plain as day what Kerry meant and then he goes on today and makes this speech as though his words were all twisted by the Republicans LOL.

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    • knuckleboner
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2927

      #3
      eh...there are certainly some people who join the military because they don't have the credentials, either fiscal or academic for the private sector.


      still, what happens if our entire population is better educated, or has money for college?

      the military still has its needs, instead we'd simply raise the requirements (and pay) for joining the military. we'll have a more highly educated force "stuck in iraq."


      (though, were are you anti-kerry people proclaiming that kerry's poorer-than-bush harvard scores clearly show that those unable to navigate the 1960s education system ended up stuck in vietnam?...)

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      • DrMaddVibe
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6686

        #4
        Let him speak, let him speak!!! I hope he announces his intentions to run for President again!!!

        I hope he campaigns for some people looking for their 1st term!

        There's no twisting his words. He knew what he said when he said it! Rove didn't have a gun to his head on this one! There's no mystery "boosted audio" like the now infamous "Dean Scream" either. This elitist piece of crap can't keep his piehole shut, and then has the audacity to talk down to America and the patriots that are carrying out orders. What a fool.

        Oh how proud all of you that voted for him must be right now!

        PS: BBB was ahead of the curve and posted on this very subject earlier. Lounge, you're dumping things way too fast and for no reason other than you personally don't like it!

        Last edited by DrMaddVibe; 10-31-2006, 04:50 PM.
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        • amadeus
          Head Fluffer
          • Jun 2004
          • 204

          #5
          Originally posted by knuckleboner
          eh...there are certainly some people who join the military because they don't have the credentials, either fiscal or academic for the private sector.


          still, what happens if our entire population is better educated, or has money for college?

          the military still has its needs, instead we'd simply raise the requirements (and pay) for joining the military. we'll have a more highly educated force "stuck in iraq."


          (though, were are you anti-kerry people proclaiming that kerry's poorer-than-bush harvard scores clearly show that those unable to navigate the 1960s education system ended up stuck in vietnam?...)
          Well, that's true and I totally agree with you on this but the troops shouldn't be made to feel that because they are in the military that they are inferior to those who went to college (and I realize that you aren't saying that at all). I am sure we all know people that went to college and are totally book smart but dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to common sense things. There has got to be a balance and if Kerry remembers, there are some people that go to college before joining or while they are in and some of those have been some of the most decorated officers in the history of our nation.

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          • knuckleboner
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2927

            #6
            yeah, totally.

            obviously, kerry was trying to get a soundbite in and i agree he was off-base.

            i was trying to say that even if the average education of the army increased, you'd still have people in iraq, so kerry's point is actually just a red herring.



            and yes, dr. vibe, i'm not as enthused by kerry. though, i'm less enthused of bush, so i'll stand by my presidential vote...

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            • blueturk
              Veteran
              • Jul 2004
              • 1883

              #7
              DAMN IT! Kerry's idiotic remark is just the kind of shit that BushCo loves to hear just before an election. They'll have a field day with this one.

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              • DrMaddVibe
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6686

                #8
                Kerry=Get out the vote!
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                • Roy Munson
                  Veteran
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1526

                  #9
                  This is a gift of gigantic proportions for the Repubs. I can't even believe it. What a fucking idiot.

                  Way to go Dems!!! There's your guy helping you out.
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  I guess you're right...

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                  • DLR'sCock
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2937

                    #10
                    Guys, Kerry was talking about Bush, it's obvious he wasn't talking about the troops.

                    Kerry fucked up in his delivery though for sure.....


                    His statement was not about the education of the troops. Moreso it was about Bush and the boys not doing their homework.

                    Of course the desperation machine of the GOP will lie and do whatever they can to spin this to their favor.


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                    • scamper
                      Commando
                      • May 2005
                      • 1073

                      #11
                      Originally posted by knuckleboner
                      eh...there are certainly some people who join the military because they don't have the credentials, either fiscal or academic for the private sector.



                      The idea that people that join the military because they have to is a myth. Don't believe it.....

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                      • scamper
                        Commando
                        • May 2005
                        • 1073

                        #12
                        By the way, why would anyone care what John Kerry says anyway?

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                        • ODShowtime
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Jun 2004
                          • 5812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by knuckleboner
                          eh...there are certainly some people who join the military because they don't have the credentials, either fiscal or academic for the private sector.
                          There are thousands of people who join the US Military to get an education!

                          Kerry was pandering with that comment.
                          gnaw on it

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                          • ODShowtime
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Jun 2004
                            • 5812

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                            Oh how proud all of you that voted for him must be right now!
                            You know what? After this, maybe you guys were right...



                            Gimme a fuckin' break. I am ashamed of the repubs every damn day.

                            [today: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061031/...ginia_senate_2]

                            Lounge tried to get you guys to admit what you were proud of from gw&friends awhile back...

                            I'm too lazy to see if you had anything to offer. But I doubt it.
                            gnaw on it

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                            • Kilkmaru
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 233

                              #15
                              Kerry's response:

                              If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.

                              I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq . It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

                              The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

                              Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they're afraid to debate real men. And this time it won't work because we're going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq .
                              Greg

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