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  • redfire
    Head Fluffer
    • Feb 2004
    • 321

    #46
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    If any of them are unable to understand evolution then he is a simpleton. A shallow thinker who cannot look at evidence but prefers superstition just because they were told it from an early age. Such a person is not fit for office.
    Last time I checked, it is still refered to as Darwin's Theory (keyword) of Evolution, right?

    The fact is, if their was evidence of it (not circumstantial evidence), they'd give that person a Nobel prize. Wouldn't they? Evolution seems to be a pretty important idea.

    I understand evolution, but it takes just as much faith for a person to believe that as does for me to believe that God created the world. Evolution REQUIRES that the Big Bang theory be true. And the Big Band theory still has one massive hole: What makes the bang? If their is a bang, something has to cause it. And where does that thing, that causes the bang, come from?

    And again, that's one of the reasons it's called the Big Bang theory.

    I do have a more open ended question that I'd like to get some perspective on. We're all here from a lot of different places, and backgrounds and such. And I keep hearing people throw around the word neo-conservative. And watching Olbermann, I've heard two different people cite it, and be talking about two different things. So what is your definition of Neo-Conservative?
    Eat Us and Smile!

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35754

      #47
      If you wished to understand it you could. You go and read scientific empiral books on the subject, you don't suddenly make a leap of faith that it was created supernaturally.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35754

        #48
        Originally posted by redfire
        Last time I checked, it is still refered to as Darwin's Theory (keyword) of Evolution, right?
        That is an oft quoted complete misunderstanding of the word 'Theory' as it is used in science.

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32576

          #49
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          It's amazing that you registered here in Feb of '06 but are calling out facts from the election of Nov '04. Who are you, alias/troll?

          Mods?
          It's really academic at this point, you punk
          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • redfire
            Head Fluffer
            • Feb 2004
            • 321

            #50
            Really, so why is that word still there? I do understand it. But I also know that the key differences between current primates and the human being are far too different. That's why the theory is continually adjusted and redefined. Just like the Big Bang.
            Eat Us and Smile!

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #51
              Originally posted by Warham
              I won't even get into the factual errors in the article, not to mention the ridiculous mention of Bush not believing in the theory of evolution, as if that has anything to do with how well a person functions as president.
              It has a shitload to do with it, you idiot! We live in 2006. Science is the future.

              I just can't believe how stupid so many people are.

              Anyone see that South Park last night? The time Child rocks!
              gnaw on it

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35754

                #52
                Originally posted by redfire

                I understand evolution, but it takes just as much faith for a person to believe that as does for me to believe that God created the world.
                Why?

                You have a book written by men thousands of years ago. Evolution has been completely proved scientifically.

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                • ODShowtime
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5812

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Warham
                  You don't know what the world 'fascism' means, fool.
                  gnaw on it

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                  • EAT MY ASSHOLE
                    Veteran
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1887

                    #54
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    It's amazing that you registered here in Feb of '06 but are calling out facts from the election of Nov '04. Who are you, alias/troll?
                    Your mom. Now come here and eat my asshole like you always have, you whiny little shit.
                    RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35754

                      #55
                      Originally posted by redfire
                      Really, so why is that word still there? I do understand it. But I also know that the key differences between current primates and the human being are far too different. That's why the theory is continually adjusted and redefined. Just like the Big Bang.
                      Dude you need to go do some reading.

                      Prmates and humans just share a common ancestor. Men did not evolve from primates.

                      You are talking about millions of years here. Compare a wolf to a Chiwawa. That's a couple of hundred years.

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister



                        Compare a wolf to a Chiwawa. That's a couple of hundred years.
                        Ya mean Chihuahua, I believe :D


                        To put it into terms everyone would understand.

                        Replace Chihuahua with Hagar

                        And Wolf with Roth.

                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • ODShowtime
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Jun 2004
                          • 5812

                          #57
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          It's absolutely unfathomable to some of these jokers in here that a person could actually vote for candidates from both major political parties. They have no concept that one can actually vote by the issues and not just whether someone has a 'D' or 'R' after their name.

                          Why argue...you can't change a rock.



                          BTW - libs, this post will only make you angry if the above description is YOU!
                          Unbelievable coming from you.

                          People just like you in here have pushed the most divisive bullshit I've ever heard. Anyone who challenged gw&friends was a "commie-lib"

                          MILLIONS of gw-haters want to vote for good republican values, but they can't.

                          No, you didn't get me riled up. I'm just not going to let you spew trash like that, whether you believe it or not.
                          gnaw on it

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35754

                            #58
                            As for the theory word this puts it better than I can at this time of night.

                            In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation


                            Basically by your reasoning if primative people had wriiten in the bible that people float then we would currently be trying to get you down from being stuck to the ceiling of your house.

                            Cheers!

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35754

                              #59
                              Hey can we have one argument at a time in this thread...

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                              • ODShowtime
                                ROCKSTAR

                                • Jun 2004
                                • 5812

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Warham
                                Bush didn't become a Christian until he was in his thirties, so I'm not sure that 'superstition' started in his youth.
                                And he still had the mind of a child.
                                gnaw on it

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