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[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by FORD
Reagan wasn't that popular at the end of his term.

68% approval rating. the highest EVER

Originally posted by FORD
His 49 state landslide in 84 was more to do with the fact that Mondale bored the shit out of everyone than anything about Reagan himself. I voted for Mondale, but I knew he wouldn't win

you voted for mondale?

[DaveIsKing]

Originally posted by FORD
You're a fucking idiot. The Iranians were going to release the hostages in October 1980. George Bush Sr met with Iranian leaders in Paris and got them to extend the "hostage crisis" until after the election, with the promise of weapons deals, should Reagan/Bush win the election. The deal became known as "October Surprise" and it set the stage for the ILLEGAL AND TREASONOUS Iran Contra scandal that followed.

WOW! Yet ANOTHER BUSH CONSPIRACY!!!

Hey, FORD, I bet that Dubya flew those planes himself into the WTC.

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by FORD
You're a fucking idiot. The Iranians were going to release the hostages in October 1980. George Bush Sr met with Iranian leaders in Paris and got them to extend the "hostage crisis" until after the election, with the promise of weapons deals, should Reagan/Bush win the election. The deal became known as "October Surprise" and it set the stage for the ILLEGAL AND TREASONOUS Iran Contra scandal that followed.

actally ford your the fucking idiot. iran contra started in 1983 and had NOTHING to do with the iranian hostage crisis. it had to do with the kidnappings in lebanon of people like cia station chief buckley and journalist terry anderson amoung others. go ahead look it up

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by DaveIsKing
WOW! Yet ANOTHER BUSH CONSPIRACY!!!

Hey, FORD, I bet that Dubya flew those planes himself into the WTC.

according to ford those were missles at the wtc and the buildings were brought down by a controlled demolition

[FORD]

Originally posted by DaveIsKing
WOW! Yet ANOTHER BUSH CONSPIRACY!!!

Hey, FORD, I bet that Dubya flew those planes himself into the WTC.

He claims to be a pilot, so he'd be on the top of my suspect list. Except he was too busy using children as "human shields" in Florida.

[DaveIsKing]

Oh Brother...

FORD, I cannot dislike you.

Because I find that you are one of my favorite forms of HUMOR and ENTERTAINMENT.

I love ya!

:D

[FORD]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
according to ford those were missles at the wtc and the buildings were brought down by a controlled demolition

I never actually endorsed the missile theory.

[lucky wilbury]

fuck it i looked it up for you:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html

March 16, 1984 CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped

Buckley was the fourth person to be kidnapped by militant Islamic extremists in Lebanon. The first American hostage, American University of Beirut President David Dodge, had been kidnapped in July 1982. Eventually, 30 Westerners would be kidnapped during the 10-year-long Lebanese hostage-taking crisis (1982-1992).

Americans who were kidnapped included journalist Terry Anderson, American University of Beirut librarian Peter Kilburn, and Benjamin Weir, a Presbyterian minister. While some of the prisoners lived through captivity -- Anderson spent the longest time as a hostage, 2,454 days -- some, including Buckley, died in captivity or were killed by their kidnappers.

U.S. officials believed that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah was behind most of the kidnappings and the Reagan administration devised a covert plan. Iran was desperately running out of military supplies in its war with Iraq, but Congress had banned the sale of American arms to countries like Iran that sponsored terrorism. Reagan was advised that a bargain could be struck -- secret arms sales to Iran, hostages back to the U.S. The plan, when it was revealed to the public, was decried as a failure and anathema to the U.S. policy of refusing to negotiate with terrorists.

In August 1985, the first consignment of arms to Iran was sent -- 100 anti-tank missiles provided by Israel; another 408 were sent the following month. As a result of the deal, American hostage Benjamin Weir was released from captivity; he had been imprisoned for 495 days. Only two other hostages were released as a result of the arms-for-hostages deal: in July 1986, Martin Jenco, a Catholic priest, was released; and the administrator of the American University of Beirut's medical school, David Jacobson, was released in November 1986.

Since the funds from the arms sales to Iran were secretly, and illegally, funneled to the U.S.-backed Contras fighting to overthrow the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua, the infamous episode became known as the "Iran-Contra affair." (See the "Final Report of the Independent Counsel for Iran/Contra Matters.)

[FORD]

The fact remians that the BCE, under Reagan, did in fact make treasonous deals with sworn enemies of the USA, while claiming that they "would not negotiate with terrorists"

[VanJay011379]

Originally posted by FORD
After all, at least he was elected. Twice even, and I'm still trying to figure that one out.

You work on that while I work on Clinton.

Originally posted by FORD

Reagan lowered the bar to the point where Presidential candidates no longer had to be actually qualified for the job. And that set the stage for the godawful mess we're in right now.

Clinton just cleaned up every mess didn't he (no pun intended).

[John Ashcroft]

Originally posted by FORD
You're a fucking idiot. The Iranians were going to release the hostages in October 1980. George Bush Sr met with Iranian leaders in Paris and got them to extend the "hostage crisis" until after the election, with the promise of weapons deals, should Reagan/Bush win the election. The deal became known as "October Surprise" and it set the stage for the ILLEGAL AND TREASONOUS Iran Contra scandal that followed.

You're too much Ford! I love it!

Ford: "Your a fucking idiot, because wacky conspiracy theory X, Y, and of course Z, cover this situation in great detail!"

Man, you're too much! :D

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by FORD
The fact remians that the BCE, under Reagan, did in fact make treasonous deals with sworn enemies of the USA, while claiming that they "would not negotiate with terrorists"

actaully to not try get back a station chief would have been treasonous considering he would be the one who could id all operatives covert and non covert operatives putting their lives, the lives of their contacts and any operations under way in risk. it's also ironic that the missles that were sold were pretty crappy,the russian suppklied ones were better, and those missles were then used againist iraq. see it's the circle of life.

[Angel]

Originally posted by FORD
You're a fucking idiot. The Iranians were going to release the hostages in October 1980. George Bush Sr met with Iranian leaders in Paris and got them to extend the "hostage crisis" until after the election, with the promise of weapons deals, should Reagan/Bush win the election. The deal became known as "October Surprise" and it set the stage for the ILLEGAL AND TREASONOUS Iran Contra scandal that followed.

No mention of the Canadians aid in rescuing hostages? Why am I not surprised? Or am I thinking of a DIFFERENT Iran hostage situation?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Angel
No mention of the Canadians aid in rescuing hostages? Why am I not surprised? Or am I thinking of a DIFFERENT Iran hostage situation?

The Canadian assistance was proof that Carter would have had the situation resolved without the BCE's interference. Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Poppy or one of his CIA operatives sabotaged the Canadian mission.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

the question isnt who loves reagan, its who doesnt. that would yield a much quicker answer