Carrying Cash Is Now Illegal - Trucker Sues DEA To Recover His Own Currency

[Hardrock69]

The government has to prove the money was the result of illegal activity.

In this case, since they had no probable cause, and the man was not accused or charged with a crime, the DEA STOLE his money.

Sure, perhaps he can get it back.

Perhaps.

But that is the same as saying perhaps you can get the money stolen from you by a fucking thief who broke into your house.


The government has no case.

They stole the money.

The agents who did so need to be ARRESTED and charged with GRAND THEFT!

[scamper]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
How hard is it to prove you DID NOT get it from selling drugs.

Hey, he could have sold a cab or a couple of cows in Mexico. No I didn't get a receipt, officer, but my buyer will gladly vouch for me and I'll prove I had the merchandise to begin with. It's not so hard.

My guess is this numbnut did make his money from dropping a load in Mexico and was going home with the cash. The DEA has everyright to confiscate possible drug money. That is why when you are approaching border crossing, it specifically states you cannot carry over more that $10,000, whether be it cash or checks.

This is not just a border crossing thing. There are many states that do the same thing, SD is one of them. If you travel across the US with a large amount of cash you run the risk of some Highway Patrol taking it and making you prove where you got it. It's Bullshit...not that I ever would, but it's still bullshit. It's the gov saying you're guilty of a crime with no proof at all.

[sadaist]

"DEA agents told Prieto he would receive a notice of federal proceedings to permanently forfeit the money within 30 days and that to get it back, he'd have to prove it was his and did not come from illegal drug sales."

This is total bullshit. In the USA, it's innocent until proven guilty (at least it's supposed to be). The burden is on the govt to prove guilt. In Mexico it's the other way around. The accused has to prove their innocence. We are truly fucked if America starts resorting to that.

[Hyman Roth]

File a motion to suppress and attach an affidavit from the truck driver and his employer with pay stubs. Then the government has to provide evidence that the money is subject to civil or criminal forfeiture, which, under the facts given in the story, it would be hard pressed to do.

It could have been worse. They could have seized the man's truck.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by sadaist
"DEA agents told Prieto he would receive a notice of federal proceedings to permanently forfeit the money within 30 days and that to get it back, he'd have to prove it was his and did not come from illegal drug sales."

This is total bullshit. In the USA, it's innocent until proven guilty (at least it's supposed to be). The burden is on the govt to prove guilt. In Mexico it's the other way around. The accused has to prove their innocence. We are truly fucked if America starts resorting to that.

Glad we are finally on the same page...

[Nitro Express]

With millions of illegal alliens and their employers breaking our laws what does $25,000 in cash matter? As long as we let some people break the law in such obviouse fashion we should let everybody break the law.

Open borders amigos! Bring all the shit you want in!

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
File a motion to suppress and attach an affidavit from the truck driver and his employer with pay stubs. Then the government has to provide evidence that the money is subject to civil or criminal forfeiture, which, under the facts given in the story, it would be hard pressed to do.

It could have been worse. They could have seized the man's truck.

He has his truck but no cash to pay the lot lizzard whores with. Sounds like the dude is going to live off of hand jobs for awhile.

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by scamper
This is not just a border crossing thing. There are many states that do the same thing, SD is one of them. If you travel across the US with a large amount of cash you run the risk of some Highway Patrol taking it and making you prove where you got it. It's Bullshit...not that I ever would, but it's still bullshit. It's the gov saying you're guilty of a crime with no proof at all.

These are border state laws. Checkpoints are designed to catch drug dealers and illegals when the border customs fail to catch them. Now, I was unaware that SD had real trouble with drug dealers, being it is considered fly over country. But I imagine most states have contigencies with dealing with laundering, racketeering, et al.

What the government did with this law was what they are supposed to do...protect this country. That is why this law is in place. Possible drug money being imported from drug sales are examples of this protection.

Yeah, I know some of the resident partiers might see the line of morality a bit blurred. But it is the law....and in this case, it is there for a reason.

[scamper]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
These are border state laws. Checkpoints are designed to catch drug dealers and illegals when the border customs fail to catch them. Now, I was unaware that SD had real trouble with drug dealers, being it is considered fly over country. But I imagine most states have contigencies with dealing with laundering, racketeering, et al.

What the government did with this law was what they are supposed to do...protect this country. That is why this law is in place. Possible drug money being imported from drug sales are examples of this protection.

Yeah, I know some of the resident partiers might see the line of morality a bit blurred. But it is the law....and in this case, it is there for a reason.

It's a law here and it happens a couple of times a year. There are quite a few drug busts on I90 maybe that's the reason. The strange part is that probably 50% of the I90 drug busts involve cars with Washington plates.

[knuckleboner]

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Originally posted by Guitar Shark
kb, any experience with this?

nope.

but your reading sounds about right.


probably similar to income tax law. if i have any income, it is incombant on me to prove the source. easy bet that if i don't declare the income and i'm found out, i'm probably getting audited. at the least.

(and yeah, hardrock, i know, the income tax laws are all invalid. sorry. best example i could come up with...)

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by scamper
It's a law here and it happens a couple of times a year. There are quite a few drug busts on I90 maybe that's the reason. The strange part is that probably 50% of the I90 drug busts involve cars with Washington plates.

Prolly on there way to supply chronic to FORD and his buddies.

7 YEARS MY ASS!

:D

[DLR'sCock]

The thing is, that well, there is truth in the controlling authority wanting to know where everyone get's their money.


You are being watched, all of the time, in one way or another.

[Nickdfresh]

Even bank accounts....

If you deposit a large amount into your account, it takes three + days to actually get there....

[Hardrock69]

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Originally posted by knuckleboner
(and yeah, hardrock, i know, the income tax laws are all invalid. sorry. best example i could come up with...)

Hey it is possible. But that does not mean I should not support the country in someway, eh?
:D

Could be worse. I could be living in a mud hut in Zambia getting fucked in the ass by a rhino or something.

:D

[Hardrock69]

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Originally posted by knuckleboner
(and yeah, hardrock, i know, the income tax laws are all invalid. sorry. best example i could come up with...)

Hey it is possible. But that does not mean I should not support the country in some way, eh?
:D

Could be worse. I could be living in a mud hut in Zambia getting fucked in the ass by a rhino or something.

But then, some folks might like that sorta thing.

:D

"I can't complain but sometimes I still do life's been good to me so faar....."