The KENNEDY Thread

[GAR]

Mob-elected Kennedy got shot because he fucked up the financing of the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba to retake the island back in control of the United Fruit Company, a direct connection to booze and the distilled spirits industry.

Sound weird? that 7-up you're gonna have for lunch today didn't help kill the Kennedys, but the profits helped a whole lot to get them elected at which point they thought they could just do what they wanted and turn it around to do the "right thing".. that was their mistake.

Add in a sprinkle of Zapata Oil, some George Bush, and the imported sugar industry and a half-dozen conspiracy theories later it ends with Bobby Kennedy gettin' zapped, too.

Ask for links if you're too retarded to Google:

Zapata Oil
bay of pigs
Cuba batista
George HW Bush
CIA guatemala overthrow

Connecting the Chicago Mob dots to 40 years later, ending with Rahm Emanuelle and Barack and Blajogevick you can see the New Boss is still the same as the Old Boss.. which donates to both parties regardless what a candidate states is his affiliation, it's what they do or don't do for the donors that matters more than anything.

Barack's not getting away with anything although, because he's a Lawyer, he may think he can pull a fast one and dodge his Owner's bullet.

[Nickdfresh]

The Zapruder film isn't proof of anything in relation to how the body reacts to being shot as the Hollywood myths of the body being "blown backwards" by shots, especially small caliber high velocity ones used by the Carcano, are pretty much bullshit...

And the whole "mob elected" him thing is more idiot conspiracy crap from the opposite end of the spectrum, and was sour grapes originating from the Nixon camp.

JFK would have won irregardless of what went on Illinois and was bothered by the fact that he didn't "beat a guy like Nixon" with a landslide. I have his bio and can check the exact debunking of that one...

[GAR]

Know what, I'm not going to wait around for the insults. The 3 retards who usually champion the Democrat-Kennedy-New Camelot bullshit (we know who they are) you guys are retarded.

So here's just the first result.. goog'in "zapata oil kennedy" for search terms I get this article, and it's really easy to do. You just move your fat little fingers around the keyboard, click a mouse, and read! Unless you're blind, retarded, and prefer to live in denial.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/4540

January 8, 2007 - 1:19pm

A Real News Exclusive
Bush Senior Early CIA Ties Revealed

By Russ Baker and Jonathan Z. Larsen | The Real News Project

January 8, 2007

NEW YORK--Newly released internal CIA documents assert that former president George Herbert Walker Bush's oil company emerged from a 1950's collaboration with a covert CIA officer.

Bush has long denied allegations that he had connections to the intelligence community prior to 1976, when he became Central Intelligence Agency director under President Gerald Ford. At the time, he described his appointment as a 'real shocker.'

But the freshly uncovered memos contend that Bush maintained a close personal and business relationship for decades with a CIA staff employee who, according to those CIA documents, was instrumental in the establishment of Bush's oil venture, Zapata, in the early 1950s, and who would later accompany Bush to Vietnam as a cleared and witting commercial asset of the agency.

According to a CIA internal memo dated November 29, 1975, Bush's original oil company, Zapata Petroleum, began in 1953 through joint efforts with Thomas J. Devine, a CIA staffer who had resigned his agency position that same year to go into private business. The '75 memo describes Devine as an oil wild-catting associate of Mr. Bush. The memo is attached to an earlier memo written in 1968, which lays out how Devine resumed work for the secret agency under commercial cover beginning in 1963.

Their joint activities culminated in the establishment of Zapata Oil, the memo reads. In fact, early Zapata corporate filings do not seem to reflect Devine's role in the company, suggesting that it may have been covert. Yet other documents do show Thomas Devine on the board of an affiliated Bush company, Zapata Offshore, in January, 1965, more than a year after he had resumed work for the spy agency.

It was while Devine was in his new CIA capacity as a commercial cover officer that he accompanied Bush to Vietnam the day after Christmas in 1967, remaining in the country with the newly elected congressman from Texas until January 11, 1968. Whatever information the duo was seeking, they left just in the nick of time. Only three weeks after the two men departed Saigon, the North Vietnamese and their Communist allies launched the Tet offensive with seventy thousand troops pre-positioned in more than 100 cities and towns.

While the elder Bush was in Vietnam with Devine, George W. Bush was making contact with representatives of the Texas Air National Guard, using his father's connections to join up with an elite, Houston-based Guard unit - thus avoiding overseas combat service in a war that the Bushes strongly supported.

The new revelation about George H.W. Bush's CIA friend and fellow Zapata Offshore board member will surely fuel further speculation that Bush himself had his own associations with the agency.

Indeed, Zapata's annual reports portray a bewildering range of global activities, in the Mideast, Asia and the Caribbean (including off Cuba) that seem outsized for the company's modest bottom line. In his autobiography, Bush declares that I'd come to the CIA with some general knowledge of how it operated' and that his 'overseas contacts as a businessman' justified President Nixon's appointing him as UN ambassador, a decision that at the time was highly controversial.

Previously disclosed FBI files include a memo from bureau director J. Edgar Hoover, noting that his organization had given a briefing to two men in the intelligence community on November 23, 1963, the day after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The memo refers to one as Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and the other as Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

When this document was first uncovered in 1988, George Herbert Walker Bush, then vice president and seeking the presidency, insisted through a spokesman that he was not the man mentioned in the memo: "I was in Houston, Texas, at the time and involved in the independent oil drilling business. And I was running for the Senate in late '63. I don't have any idea of what he's talking about." The spokesman added, "Must be another George Bush."

When Nation magazine contributor Joseph McBride approached the CIA in 1988, it initially invoked a policy of neither confirming nor denying anyone's involvement with the agency. But it soon took the unusual step of asserting that the correct individual was a George William Bush, a one-time Virginia staffer whom the agency claimed it could no longer locate. But that George Bush, discovered in his office in the Social Security Administration by McBride, noted that he was a low-ranked coast and landing-beach analyst and that he most certainly never received such an FBI briefing.

It was perhaps to help lay to rest the larger matter of the elder Bush's past associations that the former president went out of his way during his recent eulogy for President Ford to sing the praises of the Warren Commission Report as the final authority on those days.

"After a deluded gunman assassinated President Kennedy, our nation turned to Gerald Ford and a select handful of others to make sense of that madness. And a conspiracy theorist can say what they will, but the Warren Commission report will always have the final definitive say on this tragic matter. Why? Because Gerry Ford put his name on it and Gerry Ford's word was always good."

In fact, Ford's role on the Warren Commission is seen by many experts as a decisive factor in his rise to the top. As a Commission member, Ford altered its report in a minor yet significant way. As the Associated Press reported in 1997, Thirty-three years ago, Gerald R. Ford took pen in hand and changed - ever so slightly - the Warren Commission's key sentence on the place where a bullet entered John F. Kennedy's body when he was killed in Dallas. The effect of Ford's change was to strengthen the commission's conclusion that a single bullet passed through Kennedy and severely wounded Texas Gov. John Connally - a crucial element in its finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was the sole gunman.

This modification played a seminal role in ending talk of a larger conspiracy to kill the president. Knowledge of Ford's alteration has encouraged theorists to scrutinize the constellation of other figures who might have had a motivation to cover up the affair.

Meanwhile, there is much more to learn about George H. W. Bush's friend, Thomas Devine. The newly surfaced memos explain that Devine, from 1963 on, had authority from the agency to operate under commercial cover as part of an agency project code-named WUBRINY.

Devine at that time was employed with the Wall Street boutique Train, Cabot and Associates, described in the memos as an investment banking firm which houses and manages the [CIA] proprietary corporation WUSALINE. These nautical names - 'Saline' and 'Briny' - or, for the Bay of Pigs invasion 'Wave' - are CIA cryptonyms for the programs and companies involved.

George H.W. Bush's own ties are amplified in the 1975 CIA memo, dated November 29, which makes it clear that he had knowledge of CIA operations prior to being named the new director of the CIA in the fall of that year.

The 1975 memo notes that, through his relationship with Devine, Mr George Bush [the CIA director-designate] has prior knowledge of the now terminated project WUBRINY/LPDICTUM which was involved in proprietary commercial operations in Europe.

The Bush documents, part of a batch of 300,000 records the CIA provided to the House Select Committee on Assassinations, were publicly released in 1998 as the result of a lawsuit, donated to a foundation, scanned into a database - and only just noticed by an independent researcher.

Click the following to view original supporting documents: [1] [2] [3]

Russ Baker, founder of the Real News Project, and Jonathan Z. Larsen, Real News editorial board member, are at work on a book about George W. Bush and the Bush clan, due out later this year. They may be reached at: russ [at] realnews.org.

Copyright© 2006, Russ Baker/Real News Project, All Rights Reserved

[FORD]

I don't know if the Mob was involved in the hit, but there were definitely ties to the whole bay of pigs fiasco (which CIA agent George HW Poppy Bush was in charge of) and associations to Pepsico and their previous ties to Cuban sugar plantations which Prescott Bush had invested some of his Nazi blood money in.

Curiously enough, two members of the BCE were known to be in Dallas on 11/22/63.

Poppy Bush, who (unlike anyone else alive on the planet at the time) "can't remember where he was" when JFK was shot.

And Prescott Bush's own protege Richard Nixon was also in town...... at a Pepsico board meeting.

Small world, ain't it?

[ELVIS]

The Zapruder film isn't proof of anything in relation to how the body reacts to being shot as the Hollywood myths of the body being "blown backwards" by shots, especially small caliber high velocity ones used by the Carcano, are pretty much bullshit...

Bullshit! Have you ever shot an animal in the head with a rifle while hunting ?? I didn't think so...

[chefcraig]

Bullshit! Have you ever shot an animal in the head with a rifle while hunting ?? I didn't think so...

Right on!

[GAR]

Small world, ain't it?

It takes a while to filter in and accept, but it gets easier the more it's reported and dissertated when stuff gets declassified.

Banks usually are interested in shipping, the Mob is usually more concerned with stuff like mining and bananas so I think it's safe to guess the Middle East is gonna take the backburner for another 4 years while efforts are focused more on regime change in Cuba, Venezuela and Central America now that they got another Boy in office.

Just keep an eye out, no comment needed except to say this is exactly the reason I mainly vote Independant - to split both parties.

[GAR]

And Prescott Bush's own protege Richard Nixon was also in town...... at a Pepsico board meeting.

.. yeah probably awaiting that delivery from Brainsalad Pizza they ordered!

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As you can see from this reenactment, the President escaped by jumping over the grassy knoll, and only the driver was shot.

[GAR]

http://rapidshare.com/files/11782854/JFKR1.1.rar

Okay, that was from a game called "JFK Reloaded 1.1"

[Nickdfresh]

Bullshit! Have you ever shot an animal in the head with a rifle while hunting ?? I didn't think so...

Have you ever served in the military, bed-pan changer?

Didn't think so!

[LoungeMachine]

Well, he was stationed in Germany for a while where he hooked up with the 14 year old......

[ELVIS]

No, I have never served, but virtually all of my family including my father, grandfather, and several unkles have served and I grew up on military bases and had access to guns through various ways throughout my life...

I'm quite sure I could pick any of your heads off from quite a distance...

[Nickdfresh]

No, I have never served, but virtually all of my family including my father, grandfather, and several unkles have served and I grew up on military bases and had access to guns through various ways throughout my life...

I'm quite sure I could pick any of your heads off from quite a distance...

Wow, what a badass. But I think you might actually have a hard time passing US Army Basic Rifle Marksmanship due to "bad habits," a lot a "hunters" do.

And some of us can shoot back, unlike the squirrels you oppress...

[ELVIS]

Bring it on...

But honestly I consider you a friend, so calm down...

[Nickdfresh]

Bring it on...

But honestly I consider you a friend, so calm down...

Oh, I'ms gonna brings it, yo!

In any case, Mythbusters has done research on this - and footage of various other shootings show that a small piece of metal moving at hundreds of meters per second does not have enough energy to dramatically knock people backwards and most people hit just drop straight down.

Yes, this guy is tied to a pole, but here is footage of an execution of a German general convicted of war crimes. Warning: Obviously, the footage is somewhat grisly:

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