The KENNEDY Thread

[kwame k]

That is more than likely the show hideyoursheep and I were discussing earlier. It was more or less updated with the special the Discovery Channel produced and offered in November of last year, which covered much of the same ground yet brought in Myth Busters/C.S.I-like analogs (gel dummies, balloons, watermelon like mediums) to bolster the examination.

No...I seen the show you are talking about Craig.....this one was with a Guy from Michigan that made the computer model that showed that the "magic bullet" was not a "magic bullet" but when you factor in Gov. Connelly's jump seat position and the angle he turned at, just before the shot.......the "magic bullet" could of done all that damage from a single bullet.......

Is that the show you were talking about because I can't seem to find it.....

[GAR]

Ta computer expert that was able to recreate a 3-D model using available video footage from that day..

There are several CGI renderings done in the past, home computers are powerful enough now you can do it yourself in a game with a graphics engine like the one I posted easily.

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The show that reexamined the shots using CGI was on Discovery.

As far as the "impossible reload time" arguement, that's been disproven too with an 70 year old expert doing it in realtime at a firing range, contrary to the last statement here.

[chefcraig]

No...I seen the show you are talking about Craig.....this one was with a Guy from Michigan that made the computer model that showed that the "magic bullet" was not a "magic bullet" but when you factor in Gov. Connelly's jump seat position and the angle he turned at, just before the shot.......the "magic bullet" could of done all that damage from a single bullet.......

Is that the show you were talking about because I can't seem to find it.....

Sorry, when I stated "updated", what I meant to say was the Discovery Channel show seemed to take the various computer models proposed by the special you are speaking of, and more or less extrapolated them into real time analogs.

The show you are talking about just may have been the special produced for ABC and narrated by the late Peter Jennings, called "THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: BEYOND CONSPIRACY". It is in fact showing this month on the History Channel. (Info here: http://www.history.com/shows.do?epis...&action=detail)

[kwame k]

Here's the guy I was talking about......http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/intro.htm you were right Craig!

[chefcraig]

Here's the guy I was talking about......http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/intro.htm

Cool! Now I'm looking forward to revisiting the show later on this month.

[kwame k]

Me too!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

No...I seen the show you are talking about Craig.....this one was with a Guy from Michigan that made the computer model that showed that the "magic bullet" was not a "magic bullet" but when you factor in Gov. Connelly's jump seat position and the angle he turned at, just before the shot.......the "magic bullet" could of done all that damage from a single bullet.......

Is that the show you were talking about because I can't seem to find it.....

Yeah, I've seen that one.... The jump seat was a few inches to the left and lower to the floorboards (if you were looking at Oswald's angle) so it was portrayed that the "magic bullet" would have worked...

Have to admit I've been a JFK assassination buff ever since I can remember... Maybe has something to do with my parents just returning from their honeymoon on that day he was shot...

Also highly recommend to anyone visiting Dallas to visit Dealey Plaza and the Museum, very interesting....

[LoungeMachine]

https://www.myspace.com/badgeman

[LoungeMachine]

Badgeman


"Badge Man" is the title given to a photographic image that some President John F. Kennedy assassination researchers claim is a grassy knoll assassin seen within a Polaroid photograph that close witness Mary Moorman captured on November 22, 1963 within Dealey Plaza in Dallas Texas.

In the Moorman Polaroid photo (her fifth that day) is seen all of the Presidential limousine occupants, several other close witnesses (including Abraham Zapruder filming), three Dallas police motorcycle Presidential escorts, and much of the area comprising the grassy knoll. The photo has been calculated that it was captured between the Zapruder film equivalent concurrent frames of Z-315 and 316 (less than one-sixth of a second after President Kennedy's head first exploded at Z-313). On the actual Polaroid photo, the area that the "Badge Man" supposedly appears within is about one-quarter inch square.

In 1982 Gary Mack, the longtime curator and archivist for The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza (in the former Texas School Book Depository) first claimed to discover the "Badge Man" image. He labeled this image "Badge Man" because the objecte when magnified and brightness and contrast enhanced, supposedly shows what may be a dark uniformed policeman wearing his police patrolmans metal badge on his chest, displays his left shoulder crest curved police patrolman patch, his hatless short hair, and the majority of his Caucasian face. Researchers claim that photogrammetric calculus methods locate the "Badge Man" near the foliage cover of a large oak tree on the grassy knoll, somewhere northwest of a 3.3' high cement retaining wall, behind the wooden stockade fence north-south fence line, on the parking lot side, and elevated above the ground. A whitish spot slightly obscuring the "Badge Man" face is claimed to be the visual remnant of an already fired weapon muzzle blast, the bullet from which if fired at President Kennedy from his right front would have had to pass over the 3.3' high cement retaining wall.

Other researchers have claimed that the "Badge Man" image is the sun-reflected outline of a soda pop bottle sitting atop the cement retaining wall.

Mack has stated that he took a Moorman print he obtained from a November 22, 1963 United Press International first generation photograph to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1983. Upon scanning the Moorman photo UPI print with high-resolution computer scanning equipment, then initially examining the "Badge Man" image, Mack has stated that the only two MIT examiners both agreed that the "Badge Man" image did show what looked like a human being. Mack further stated that the next day his Moorman Polaroid materials were returned to him and he was told that further MIT examination of the photograph would not take place. Mack also had ITEK computer scan and examine the image in 1993. In 2000 Mack stated, "In a nutshell, every scientist who has worked on the image for me realized immediately that it was an image that looked very much like a person. However, no enhancement techniques have, or probably ever will have, been able to clarify the image significantly. Therefore, it is not conclusive, which is exactly what I have been saying since 1982."

In the mid-1980's, assassination researcher and photo expert Jack White (who testified to the House Select Committee on Assassinations) enhanced the immediate photograph area of the "Badge Man" with what White has described as clear photographic colored oils to illustrate the "Badge Man." White's enhancement first appeared publicly in the 1988 documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy.

To the anatomical right of the supposed "Badge Man" some researchers claim there is also seen a second person, self-proclaimed witness Gordon Arnold, who claimed in 1978 that he was filming the motorcade while wearing his US Army uniform when a shot passed close to his left ear. A third person claimed by researchers to be seen is a construction hard hatted accomplice to "Badge Man's" anatomical left facing the general direction of the book depository.

Also claimed seen in the Moorman polaroid by many researchers is the hatted head of a person located about 9' west of the grassy knoll stockade fence corner (a different location from the "Badge Man"). This image area is the exact same area where several overpass witnesses stated they observed smoke, where several of those smoke witnesses (and other witnesses) immediately ran to (seeing no one but finding hundreds of footprints in the mud directly behind a station wagon backed up to the stockade fence that also had shoe-bottom mud scraped off onto the station wagons rear bumper, a noticeably inordinate amount of cigarette butts, and muddy footprints up on a picket fence cross-beam support).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badge_man

[LoungeMachine]

Everytime I think I'm done with this...... they pull me back in


assholes.

JFK's headshot came from the fenceline on the knoll.

And no one has mentioned, with all their talk of his "movements", that he was wearing his back brace at the time too.

[Redballjets88]

Drove right by the knoll and book depository today, me and a friend talked about how its funny that where Kennedy got shot is Dallas' biggest tourist attraction.

[LoungeMachine]

Yeah, it's a riot....

[Redballjets88]

Yeah, it's a riot....

Fuck off cockboy, it's funny because New York has the empire state bulding, times square, etc, L.A. has hollywood, Chicago has the lake, sears tower, Dallas has a Knoll and a book warehouse.

not funny haha, funny weird.

youre always nay-saying.

How about next time go with something like

"Wow thats cool, you live right near where this historic event took place, and drove by today or all days when it was a hot topic online"

[Craggy]

It was Oswald.

[FORD]

Texas is the reason that the President's dead......

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