10 Cars That Sank Detroit

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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    #16
    Ha! My father bought that AMC grand lady, known as the Pacer...

    He was commuting over an hour each way for work, and thought the new AMC V-6 in the pacer would save him gas mileage while still giving him plenty of pep and power, Instead, he got the gas mileage of a V-8 and the lethargy of an old four cylinder...

    Laying in the back as a kid was kind of cool though, like being in a planetarium...

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    • alexpgrimes
      Foot Soldier
      • Jan 2004
      • 731

      #17
      Originally posted by twonabomber
      Grimes has an Aztek. :D
      yes I do. it's ugly and dependable just like twona...lol
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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #18
        Doesn't mention imports that helped sink Detroit. Just some ones I remember seeing a ton of.

        Honda - Civic / Accord
        Toyota - Corolla / Camry / FourRunner
        Nissan - Pathfinder
        VW - Rabbit / Beetle
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        • chefcraig
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Apr 2004
          • 12172

          #19
          Originally posted by sadaist
          Doesn't mention imports that helped sink Detroit. Just some ones I remember seeing a ton of.

          Honda - Civic / Accord
          Toyota - Corolla / Camry / FourRunner
          Nissan - Pathfinder
          VW - Rabbit / Beetle
          Of course it would also be good to mention the imports that failed to sink Detroit, as well. Anyone remember seeing these at the side of the road or in a junkyard?




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          • binnie
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2006
            • 19145

            #20
            Why has America never been very good at exporting it's cars? It's very rare to see Chryslers, Dodge's etc in Europe.

            Ford also has an entirely different range on sale in Europe.

            You guys import lots of cars, both European and Japenese. You don't seem to be very good at selling them back to us, however.
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            • Va Beach VH Fan
              ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
              • Dec 2003
              • 17913

              #21
              Originally posted by binnie
              Why has America never been very good at exporting it's cars? It's very rare to see Chryslers, Dodge's etc in Europe.

              Ford also has an entirely different range on sale in Europe.

              You guys import lots of cars, both European and Japenese. You don't seem to be very good at selling them back to us, however.
              Perhaps its not being "very good" at exporting, perhaps it's unfair trade practices....
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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11294

                #22
                Originally posted by alexpgrimes
                yes I do. it's ugly and dependable just like twona...lol
                okay, THAT was funny!
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                • twonabomber
                  formerly F A T
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11294

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sadaist
                  The author needs a bit more education on this subject. The Ford Explorer did not usher in SUV's. It was the Ford Bronco & Bronco II, and Chevy Blazer & S-10 Blazer.
                  can't leave out the full-size Jeep Wagoneer, introduced around '63, and the smaller XJ Cherokee in '84...
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                  • binnie
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • May 2006
                    • 19145

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                    Perhaps its not being "very good" at exporting, perhaps it's unfair trade practices....
                    In what sense? I don't follow.

                    Why do Americans buy lots of BMWs, Mercedes, Porsches, Toyotas etc but Europeans and Japenese buy so few Chryslers, Dodges etc.

                    GM certainly owns a lot of car manufacturers that do significant business in Europe, but cars made by Americans have never really taken off over here to the same extent. I was wondering why American manufacturers haven't really focussed on those markets.....
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                    • Kristy
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 16731

                      #25
                      The Ford Taurus was the Rethuglican car of the early 90's if there ever was one. My father who worked as as mechanic call that car the ugliest piece of shit Ford ever made - right next to their Pinto and Mustang II. Pretty much called it a conservative on a budget kind of car which could explain why so many of them were sold.

                      One car I didn't see in the Top 10 was the Chevrolet Vega. My mom had one (1975) while she was in high school and still talks about that car today - how the valve train in that car was screwy it backfired every time you shifted, how the floorboards were all rusted out and the electrical system caused small fires every now and then.



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                      *if you squint your eyes real hard.

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                      • chefcraig
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 12172

                        #26
                        Yes, the Vega was something special, with it's one of a kind aluminum "melt-down" engine. Some American cars of the late seventies to late eighties were shitboxes before they left the factory, and it started in the design stage. Not only did cars get smaller, innovative thinking was downsized as well, leading to compromises in safety. The GM X-body cars were so poorly structured that when mechanics put them on a standard lift to do an oil change or replace tires, the damned windshield and rear window would crack or shatter.









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                        • Kristy
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 16731

                          #27
                          Right, forgot about their aluminum engine which could explain why the valve train in that car never worked. My mom used to tell me stories of how the floor boards were rusting out which was odd since she never lived near a coast (i.e., near salt water) which would add to a car's general oxidation. She also used to say of her driving along the highway when all of the sudden she heard a "tink....tink..tink..." sound and soon realized it was pieces of the car's metal falling off and bouncing on the road; she was actually afraid to shift for fear of losing her foot.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59571

                            #28
                            Originally posted by chefcraig
                            And had that unfortunate "Unexplainable Acceleration Syndrome" where you'd put the car in drive and it would unexpectedly blast off to top speed. A fine way to start any morning.

                            How could any list be complete without the Pacer? For the truly deranged, there was an option for the interior to be made out of Levis. There was nothing quite like driving your own aquarium.

                            I can't believe AMC didn't even make the original list in this thread. It wasn't just the Pacer.... ALL of their cars were so goddamned hideous!!

                            Like the Matador


                            The Gremlin


                            The Hornet



                            About the only thing they made that wasn't hideous was the Javelin, which fit in well with the muscle car era.
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                            • chefcraig
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 12172

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Right, forgot about their aluminum engine which could explain why the valve train in that car never worked. My mom used to tell me stories of how the floor boards were rusting out which was odd since she never lived near a coast (i.e., near salt water) which would add to a car's general oxidation. She also used to say of her driving along the highway when all of the sudden she heard a "tink....tink..tink..." sound and soon realized it was pieces of the car's metal falling off and bouncing on the road; she was actually afraid to shift for fear of losing her foot.
                              In the southern United States, it only took roughly 30 years for people to figure out that rust-proofing cars actually causes rust. The goop that is sprayed in wheel wells and into doors (they'd drill a hole in the metal, spray in the crap then put in a plastic plug) would only serve to trap moisture, leading to quicker rot than normal.









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                              • sadaist
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11625

                                #30
                                Originally posted by twonabomber
                                can't leave out the full-size Jeep Wagoneer, introduced around '63, and the smaller XJ Cherokee in '84...
                                Nice call. Those were pretty tuff. I was just basing the broncos & blazers on popularity. Through the mid to late 80's they were everywhere. My favorite is the old K5 Blazers with the removable top. I'd drive one today if I were making regular Baja fishing trips.

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