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I'd rather not base anything solely on "essays." In fact, most "Canadian Socialized Medicine" propaganda is based on statistics from the 1990s, when conservative Canadian gov'ts severally cut funding in certain areas. The funding was restored, and yes, some Canadians are sent South for certain procedures, especially involving certain areas of prenatal care...
It's done because it's cheaper and more efficient. Hardly conforming to the typical stereotype though...Comment
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Ya, I know...especially essays from people who actually know what they are talking about, filled with actual stats.
We can just assume it's propaganda left over from the 1990's..Comment
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I was suspicious of this 'factoid' and a bit of online research shows that it's been picked up and spread throughout a bunch of anti public healthcare blogs over the last couple of weeks.
The whole truth of it is very different. NICE did send out a recommendation on backpain treatment. http://www.nice.org.uk/media/7D0/4D/...ineRelease.pdf
The recommendation only applies to people who have had backpain for under a year and has been put together by a bunch of experts in the field. The idea of this is to try and help people not as a big cost cutting exercise.
Research showed that in 18 different studies steroids didn't help this kind of condition in the vast majority of cases.
Price C, Arden N, Coglan L, Rogers PTI: Cost-effectiveness and safety of epidural steroids in the management of sciatica. Pain Clinic, Royal South Hants Hospital, Southampton, UK, 2005.
The idea of the recommendations were to come up with stuff that might help the patients.
Seriously the amount of money involved is a tiny piss in the ocean.
The details of this are not so important as much as seeing the BS spin that is being sent your way at the moment.
As far as the other stuff goes US cancer survival rates are good but in most other areas it's not so great. It's cherry picking statistics.
You ever see the infant mortality rates for somewhere like Detroit? They're 3rd world...Comment
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Oh please, your ignorant! Like there would be a separate set of doctors...
No argument. So, naturally, the solution is to have them pay for the next door neighbor's in addition to whatever they're paying now. Makes sense.
Again, dummy. They would probably be paying less and the next door neighbor with "pre-existing" conditions could get insurance and save his house...Comment
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Actually, yes.
When it comes down to real scientific health-care.
There are a set number of places and people that do cutting edge work. We are not talking "Hampton doctors", but Mayo Clinic and St. Jude doctors. Not to disregard Hampton Doctor, thumbs up and thanks. Golf courses would not be the same without them.MICHAEL G. MULLENTo put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.Comment
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I was drunk. What's your excuse for being a libertarian cult member feltching Ron Paul's ass on behalf of corporatists, then pretending that somehow makes you a rebel?
I could make some fucking awesome (Buffalo) chicken wings, yo!Well, there already are, you frycook. Do you really think Bill Gates uses the same doctor that you do?
But in case you didn't notice, I was agreeing that Bill Gates would probably get a "better" doctor, however you would tangibly qualify that...
Yeah, because that's exactly what I said. I actually think money is controlled by like 2% of the population. But march on sheep, increasing productivity and corporate profitably while your paycheck lingers like the rest of the middle class. And Ron Paul works to create a society of complete inequity and eunuch gov't...That makes sense. Because money can appear out of thin air.
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Ah, hell that calls for a Mr. Buffett song from 1971~
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U.S. sports arena hosts health clinic of last resort
By Dan Whitcomb Dan Whitcomb – Thu Aug 13, 10:43 am ET
INGLEWOOD, California (Reuters) – Inside an ageing sports arena, where rows of dental chairs and a hospital smell have replaced the former Los Angeles Lakers basketball court, thousands of Americans are seeking free healthcare.
Hundreds were turned away just on Tuesday, the first day of a weeklong clinic run by the nonprofit Remote Area Medical Volunteer as part of its mission to provide free health, dental and eye care in needy spots around the world.
It marks the first time in RAM's 25 years that it has gone to a major U.S. metropolitan area -- a reminder that even in Los Angeles, with world-class doctors and hospitals, many do not have access to affordable healthcare.
RAM is apolitical, but its mobile medical centre has sprung up in the working-class LA suburb of Inglewood against the backdrop of an increasingly bitter public debate over President Barack Obama's proposed overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system.
A GLIMPSE INTO THE PROBLEM
Its organizers, including founder Stan Brock, have steered clear of the healthcare battle in Washington, which centres on Obama's pledge to provide for the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans and charges by conservatives that he will only make the situation worse by "socializing" medicine.
Brock said he started RAM, which is best-known for its work in Third World countries, to provide healthcare in remote parts of the world where people have no access to doctors and medical supplies.
His mobile clinics are not seen as a solution to America's complex healthcare issues but the turnout in Inglewood has offered a glimpse into the depth of the problem.
Obama's political allies, who have seen his fellow Democrats confronted by angry constituents at "town hall" meetings, seized on the RAM event as an opportunity to plug the president's $1 trillion (603.4 billion pound) plan.
"There are a lot of town halls going on across America but you know, I'm going to have another story to tell when I get back to Washington, D.C. It will be about what happened here in Inglewood," Congresswoman Maxine Waters, a Democrat who has pushed hard for Obama's reforms, told a news conference on the sidelines of the opening day.
Some 8,000 people were expected to file through the Forum sports arena for everything from Pap smears to acupuncture to eyeglass fittings.
"It certainly proves that here in the inner city healthcare is needed in the worst way," Inglewood Mayor Roosevelt Dorn said. "If that doesn't send a message across America, I don't know what will."
"A MIRACLE"
Ayana Kleckner, 15, was chipper despite spending the night in line outside to get one of the 1,500 appointments available on Tuesday. She managed only two hours of sleep in a sleeping bag on the cold sidewalk.
Ayana saw her mother Elon Kleckner have a painful abscessed tooth removed during surgery in a dental chair. The high-school student was cheerfully eating an apple after her first teeth cleaning in five years.
"This is a miracle, but people shouldn't have to sleep on the street to get medical care," Ayana said while waiting for an eye exam. "It was adventurous, if you could put it that way, but I don't think I should have to go through that to make sure I'm healthy."
Elon Kleckner, who declined to give her age, said she had lost her sales job several months ago but did not have medical insurance even when she was working and had not been to a doctor in years.
"If everybody in this country were in the situation my daughter and I are in, they would have a whole different view of (the healthcare debate)," Kleckner said, speaking through a sore mouth stuffed with cotton.
On the other side of the hall, 83-year-old Ethel Nabors, who has been without teeth for some five years, had just been told after a nine-hour wait that the clinic could not provide her with a new set of false teeth.
But Nabors shrugged off the bad luck as she sat in an old Lakers chair to see if a volunteer could realign her dentures, which she had brought with her in a paper sack.
"I didn't live this long by fretting about everything," she said. "I pray for patience. I've made it this far. If it's meant for me to have a new pair of teeth then I'll get them one way or the other."
(Editing by Mary Milliken and Howard Goller)
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