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  • WARF
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    • Jan 2004
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    Crowley Disappointed Obama 'Waded Into Local Issue'

    BOSTON -- The police officer who arrested Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his Cambridge home last week told his side of the story on WEEI Thursday morning.

    Sgt. James Crowley, who arrested the Harvard s cholar as he was trying to budge open his broken front door, spoke out on "The Dennis and Callahan" morning show about the incident and about President Barack Obama's comment that the Cambridge Police Department acted "stupidly."

    "He is the president of the United States. I support the president to a point. I think it's disappointing that he waded into what should be a local issue," Crowley said. "I think it was very disappointing."

    A lawyer for the Cambridge Superior Officers association told ABC that the president was "dead wrong to malign this police officer specifically and the department in general."

    Alan McDonald defended the police department, saying it is "dedicated to non-discrimination."

    "It was inappropriate to use the situation to implicate the history of racism in America. This had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Gates' behavior," McDonald said.

    Crowley said when he first encountered Gates on the day of the arrest, he asked Gates to step outside of the home because a witness reported seeing more than one person trying to gain access to the home and that he feared for his safety.

    "I have to go home at night. I have three beautiful children and a wife who depend on me," Crowley said.

    Crowley said that Gates refused to step outside the home, so he then asked Gates if there was anyone else in the home."I wanted to know if there was anyone else there. 'Are you there by yourself?'" Crowley said.

    The officer said that Gates did not look like a person who would break into a home, but the tone of his voice was "peculiar" as he was responding to Crowley's questions.

    "He said, 'I live here.' When I asked for ID, he asked for my ID," Crowley said. "If that is all the guy needs to comply with my reasonable request, I will show it to him."

    Gates walked into his kitchen and supplied Crowley with his Harvard identification card, not his driver's license, according to the officer. Crowley said that Gates was arrested after the Harvard professor followed him out of the house and "continuing the tirade after being warned a number of times."

    "He was cautioned in the house -- 'Calm down. Lower your voice,'" Crowley said. "There are so many things in this incident that keep me scratching my head. I was not aware of who Professor Gates was. I was amazed that someone of his intelligence could stoop to such a level and berate me and accuse me of being a racist."

    Gates has demanded an apology, but Crowley said that he "certainly would not" be apologizing.

    When asked if there was anything he'd do differently, Crowley said no and joked that he'd "maybe take the fire test instead of the police test."
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
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    #2
    Once Professor Gates established his own identity and the fact that he owned the house, the police really had no legitimate purpose being there. They did, indeed, act stupid (and arguably racist)
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    • WARF
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      #3
      I'm not really into politics, but this story has me livid. I first and foremost, would like to say that I have Crowleys' side 100%, and President Obama looked like a jackass making comments about this situation, without any knowledge of the events that unfolded. I am so fucking sick of the fucking Race card being pulled everytime a Black man gets arrested. This story would be totally irrelevant if it was a WHITE person breaking into his own home... but here we go again... if a black person is asked for ID or questioned about anything the officer asks following Standard operating procedure... the cop has to obviously be a racist. Personally I think Gates got off lucky... if I had it my way... I would taken out the fucking nightstick... or better yet beat the dickens out of him with his own fucking cane!!!

      But i'm a harvard proffesor...

      Oh.... I DEMAND an apology?

      Why?? Because you're black???

      How come the racist black people can say whatever they want to white people and get away with it everyday???

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      • WARF
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        #4
        As most of you already know, I am a registered Democrat and Voted for Obama as well.

        But this story really pisses me off!

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        • FORD
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          • Jan 2004
          • 59619

          #5
          Race was probably part of it, but not the only part. A cop harrassed a man, and arrested him, in his own house, even though he had firmly established his identity.

          I had a cop threaten to arrest me for being drunk in my own house back in 1988. I wasn't driving, or providing alcohol to minors (if there were any there, they brought their own) or anything like that.

          Worst part is, I went to school with this fucking cop. When he asked me for my ID, I looked him right in the eye and said "Andy, you have known me since the goddamned fourth grade. If you're old enough to be a graduate of the police academy, then you know I'm old enough to buy beer.

          He didn't really have an argument for that one.

          And for the record, I'm white, the cop was Asian, and my black friend was hiding in another room.
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          • WARF
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            • Jan 2004
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            #6
            It appears Gates is more racist towards white people!

            He was giving the cop an attitude from the beginning...

            Then he is still mouthin off after he left and followed him outside ranting and raving???

            It's not about skin color...

            It's about Gates' acting like a asshole and showing no respect for law enforcement...

            Yeah... he may have been tired from a plane trip...

            or in a bad mood.... but he acted like an asshole to police....

            And deserved what he got....

            I don't care if his skin is green... orange... blue... white... yellow...

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            • Dolemite!
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              #7
              I just love the "righteous anger" of the Angry White Man. Perhaps when you get fucked with because of your colour then you might understand why it's a big deal. It may be the 21st century and Obama may be pres but just how well do different people get along in the real world? Perhaps those kids at the pool were delusional when they heard people talking about them.

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              • WARF
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                • Jan 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by Dolemite!
                I just love the "righteous anger" of the Angry White Man. Perhaps when you get fucked with because of your colour then you might understand why it's a big deal. It may be the 21st century and Obama may be pres but just how well do different people get along in the real world? Perhaps those kids at the pool were delusional when they heard people talking about them.
                This has NOTHING to do with race!
                Either did the OJ Simpson murders...
                But when all else fails... USE THE RACE CARD!!!

                But who the hell knows...

                Maybe Gates and the cop are BOTH racists....

                I'm not inside either one of their heads...

                I think Obama acted like an "idiot" for automatically taking his friend or a BLACK MANS side... before even self admittingly not knowing the facts first...

                It looks like everytime a black person gets a paper cut... the president will come running to rescue.... IT WAS A WHITE PERSON WHO HANDED ME THE PAPER!! LOL

                Anyways... President Obama still has my full support as President... I just needed to vent a little bit on this subject...

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                • Igosplut
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2794

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Once Professor Gates established his own identity and the fact that he owned the house, the police really had no legitimate purpose being there. They did, indeed, act stupid (and arguably racist)
                  From what I see of the facts it's mostly his fault. Cops asked him to come outside and identify himself and he immediatly went into a tirade about being profiled (and not IDing himself) right off. Plus, they didn't bust him for B&E, it was for disorderly (I.E. not doing what is asked) All he had to do was show the proper ID (MA drivers license/ID card NOT other forms) then all's well. In MA you can get locked up JUST for not showing ID when the cops ask (state law)

                  Let me ask you this....Should the cops have just taken his word (and not the proper ID they asked for that he was all on the up an up?? This all smacks of an self-entitled asshole who has never had any (bad) encounters with the police. He wasn't in charge of the situation and was deeply insulted that they wouldn't take him at face value. Hell, that kind of treatment is for the unwashed masses not a man of his stature! Nothing smacks of bullshit to a cop more than somebody in a questionable situation that can't (or better wording won't) explain it calmly and produce what is asked for....
                  Last edited by Igosplut; 07-23-2009, 05:17 PM. Reason: HTML
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                  • Igosplut
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #10
                    And he should have been GLAD they showed up that fast......
                    Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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                    • WARF
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                      #11
                      I wonder if Crowley was a racist.... when he had his lips on Reggie Lewis when his heart stopped beating...

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                      • Igosplut
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2794

                        #12
                        Read ThIS PAGE of the officers police report. Then tell me who's fault you think it is....
                        Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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                        • Dolemite!
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                          #13
                          From that article he did show the cop his ID. The "tirade" began after that. So it's the volume and tone that got him arrested after repeated warnings. The question is would that cop have given a white person a hard time as this. Is there not a history of the police being worse with minorities or is that perhaps a conspiracy? Do most white people just have a habit of complying immediately and not being upset in these situations, or would cops have behaved differently in that scenario?

                          Edit: ok from the report Gates looks like an asshole...
                          Last edited by Dolemite!; 07-23-2009, 05:36 PM.

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                          • Igosplut
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #14
                            It (whole article) states from the time the cops arrived on the scene and started to ask him questions he yelled back repeatedly "You don't know who you're messing with, because I'm a black man in America, ect". Obviously he was pissed they even had the nerve to question him. The guys just a self entitled asshole.
                            Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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                            • Dolemite!
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                              #15
                              I agree. I edited my post.

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