So is he racist?

[bueno bob]

Meh. I wasn't worried about it much when I saw it. No real difference between that and the old Bush as Joker poster that made the rounds...or the vampire Bush taking the blood out of the statue of liberty...hardly worth even noticing, honestly.

Well, except for the fact that Bush actually deserved those pictures.

[bueno bob]

In any regards, I'd suggest that Firas Alkhateeb get himself a good book and read up on what a socialist actually is before he paints Obama as one. Makes him look more ignorant to those of us who actually HAVE done our reading.

[Nickdfresh]

He didn't. He painted Obama up on a "Time Magazine" cover. It was the uncreative right wing assclowns that redid his pic with "socialism" scrolled on it...

[bueno bob]

He didn't. He painted Obama up on a "Time Magazine" cover. It was the uncreative right wing assclowns that redid his pic with "socialism" scrolled on it...

Ah.

Well, that explains that. Was it mentioned in the article? I only got a little way through it before I lost interest...lol, maybe I should do my own reading, heheheh...

[Guitar Shark]

Los Angeles - LA Daily - Obama 'Joker' Poster: It's All About Race

Thanks dude. The link to the original blog post was in there. I think both articles are a bunch of crap. But I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this thread. It's not like a bunch of people here have argued that it was a racist image.

[Big Train]

I'm not trying to accomplish anything.

I've always thought it amounted to nothing and not a racist image in and of itself. Was just simply curious what everyone else thought.

Was also curious to see if the artist's political thoughts, which are pretty pro-Obama, changed any opinions.

[sadaist]

BTW, I've never even seen the original image.

If you saw Heath Ledger as the Joker, than you saw the original image.

[Guitar Shark]

I'm not trying to accomplish anything.

I've always thought it amounted to nothing and not a racist image in and of itself. Was just simply curious what everyone else thought.

Was also curious to see if the artist's political thoughts, which are pretty pro-Obama, changed any opinions.

I'm not sure where you are getting the pro-Obama thing. He's pretty critical of Obama in the interview. If he likes Kucinich, I'm assuming he's much further to the left than Obama.

[Blackflag]

As if anything Obama has done so far was remotely "socialist"??

Other than giving $1T+ to private companies, buying GM, and giving $4500 coupons for cars.

[FORD]

The only way I could see this as "racist" would be, if somebody did not get the "joker" context, and saw the original work as somebody trying to paint Obama in "whiteface". As in the old "blackface" makeup of the minstrel shows or Al Jolson movies. Which would imply that Obama was trying to be "white".

But I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that was the intent of the original artist, or even the right wing assholes that added the "socialism" crap to it.

[Nickdfresh]

Other than giving $1T+ to private companies,

That started with Bush actually, and you can argue that what both Bush and Obama have done is are temporary effort to save capitalism...

buying GM, and giving $4500 coupons for cars.

They didn't "buy" GM, they took control and are gradually untaking control...

And the $4500 vouchers are little different than any other tax break...

[standin]

How much did America give to Blackwater and Haliburton?

[Seshmeister]

Uhuhuhhu

[Blackflag]

That started with Bush actually

I wasn't expecting to hear that.

They didn't "buy" GM, they took control and

The government gave the company cash in exchange for majority ownership of the company. How is that not buying it?

are gradually untaking control...

Are they? Tell me what they've done to "untake" control.

And the $4500 vouchers are little different than any other tax break...

You're taxing a number of people, then transferring that money to one person so they can buy their car cheaper. That's not a tax break.

[Nickdfresh]

I wasn't expecting to hear that.

Sorry to throw out random factoids...

The government gave the company cash in exchange for majority ownership of the company. How is that not buying it?

Nice complete mischaracterization. Yeah, the gov't wanted to get into the car business. GM wasn't for sale, it was on the brink...

Are they? Tell me what they've done to "untake" control.

By speeding GM out of bankruptcy in record time, forcing severe restructuring, and edging GM closer to profitability...

You're taxing a number of people, then transferring that money to one person so they can buy their car cheaper. That's not a tax break.

It's little different than a tax rebate give arbitrarily and in some cases almost regardless of who paid what. It's a targeted market incentive that is in many ways more effective than a tax break at re-infusing cash back into the economy...