So is he racist?

[Blackflag]

Nice complete mischaracterization. Yeah, the gov't wanted to get into the car business. GM wasn't for sale, it was on the brink...

The government gave cash in exchange for a stake in the company. It happens all the time in bankruptcy. Explain what you think is 'mischaracterized?'

By speeding GM out of bankruptcy in record time, forcing severe restructuring, and edging GM closer to profitability...

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It was the bankruptcy that gave the government control of the company. You can't say the bankruptcy is the government giving up control.

As far as I know, the government hasn't done anything to relinquish control since the bankruptcy. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Bored?

It's little different than a tax rebate give arbitrarily and in some cases almost regardless of who paid what.

You're right...it's no different from the government arbitrarily giving out extraordinary tax rebates to random individuals...

And when has the government ever done that again? Is there an IRS lotto that I'm not aware of??

[Dr. Love]

Why so socialist?

[LoungeMachine]

Is it considered "racist" because he's depicted in "white face" ???

[bueno bob]

Is it considered "racist" because he's depicted in "white face" ???

[Fuct Jup]

There was a Joker faced GW Bush as well. Was that racist?

[Nickdfresh]

The government gave cash in exchange for a stake in the company. It happens all the time in bankruptcy. Explain what you think is 'mischaracterized?'

Because they didn't just buy it as a national car company like -say- France did Renault. It's not even remotely the same category...

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It was the bankruptcy that gave the government control of the company. You can't say the bankruptcy is the government giving up control.

As far as I know, the government hasn't done anything to relinquish control since the bankruptcy. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Bored?

Of course they're not. But they are going to send it back to the private sector eventually. They can't just insta-divest™...

I'm not the one that started the "argument," Captain Semantics...

You're right...it's no different from the government arbitrarily giving out extraordinary tax rebates to random individuals...

And when has the government ever done that again? Is there an IRS lotto that I'm not aware of??

They gave out the tax rebate/credit to whomever applied for it. How much really different is that? Except that actually using targeted gov't incentives and benefits such as vouchers or extending unemployment benefits tend to be far more effective in the long run...

But carry on with your ideologue ideals of "libertarianism" that benefit foreign companies in nations with --oh!-- NATIONAL HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS that effectively serve as subsidies!

[Blackflag]

Because they didn't just buy it as a national car company like -say- France did Renault. It's not even remotely the same category...

Right. Not in the same category. Remind me again the difference between a government buying a company, like France and Renault...and a government exchanging cash for a majority stake in a company?

Of course they're not. But they are going to send it back to the private sector eventually. They can't just insta-divest™...

Of course not. And the tm thing is cool. But you said they are untaking control. (Though that's not really a word.) Present tense. So what are they doing presently to "untake" control?

They gave out the tax rebate/credit to whomever applied for it. How much really different is that?

Different than what? You said that it's "little different than a tax rebate given arbitrarily." I'm just asking when tax rebates have been given out like that before.

But carry on with your ideologue ideals of "libertarianism" that benefit foreign companies in nations with --oh!-- NATIONAL HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS that effectively serve as subsidies!

Yawn. Stay on topic, if you can.

[bueno bob]

There was a Joker faced GW Bush as well. Was that racist?

Nope, which is exactly why I brought it up earlier. Obama as Joker wasn't exactly an original idea, nor racist.

Just ignorant due to the whole "Socialist" thing.

[sadaist]

There was a Joker faced GW Bush as well. Was that racist?

No. It's impossible to be racist towards white people.

[bueno bob]

No. It's impossible to be racist towards white people.

I'm not sure I'd take it that far.

[Nickdfresh]

Right. Not in the same category. Remind me again the difference between a government buying a company, like France and Renault...and a government exchanging cash for a majority stake in a company?

I guess I will, since you're a tad thick. The French nationalized Renault as a matter of permanent national policy early on while the US acquired GM as a temporary emergency measure...

Is it that fucking difficult? If it is, I'll make a coloring book for you...

Of course not. And the tm thing is cool. But you said they are untaking control. (Though that's not really a word.) Present tense. So what are they doing presently to "untake" control?

Wow, it's "not really a word." Thanks for pointing that out Captain Monosyllabic. Thanks for the writing tip!

Maybe I can pay you back by letting you know that words exist that contain more than two syllables. The English language is great!

Different than what? You said that it's "little different than a tax rebate given arbitrarily." I'm just asking when tax rebates have been given out like that before.

I don't know, I''m not a tax historian. But I'm pretty sure the Bush tax cuts were largely unprecedented in their scope...

Yawn. Stay on topic, if you can.

Oh, sure. Please define the "topic?" Is that which ever you decide to skip or actually quote? Because I noticed you have a habit of deleting whatever you can't answer, pussy.

Why don't YOU fucking stay "on topic?"

[Nickdfresh]

No. It's impossible to be racist towards white people.

Oooh! The strawman argument of the night!!

[Blackflag]

Oooh! The strawman argument of the night!!

You really need to give that up...

[Nickdfresh]

You really need to give that up...

I can't! It's like coke to John Belushi...

It's also the truth. When dolts revert back the the knee-jerk Rush Limbaugh-isms and typical "conservative" talking points, that's exactly what it is! An argument nobody is making. Did anyone here say that blacks can't be racist assholes? No.

Quite the opposite. Read Kristy's post about being hot and on the dance floor...

[Blackflag]

I can't! It's like coke to John Belushi...

It's also the truth. When dolts revert back the the knee-jerk Rush Limbaugh-isms and typical "conservative" talking points, that's exactly what it is! An argument nobody is making. Did anyone here say that blacks can't be racist assholes? No.

Well at least go read the definition and find some examples, man. There are like 9 common argument fallacies, they've got to be on the internet somewhere. Shit!

Quite the opposite. Read Kristy's post about being hot and on the dance floor...

My curiosity is piqued. Link?