AP publishes photo of Marine fatally wounded in battle

[jhale667]

If it was against the family's wishes that's not really cool. On the other hand, had they never identified the soldier, it still would have been a sobering reminder of what's happening to people over there...us and them....

[Nickdfresh]

Incidentally, he was a "marine." Not a "soldier."


Carry on...

[jhale667]

Incidentally, he was a "marine." Not a "soldier."


Carry on...

"Serviceman" whatevs...

[thome]

Simply hype to sell pictures and give idiots somethingto talk about like they give a fukk.

Everything looks like sh!t when you blow it up.

[standin]

Don't rate any of them...they are all shocking and disturbing. Can't put a rating on the potential anguish those photos might of had on any of the loved ones who saw them.

Yea, they are no doubt. Photos manufactured or real can be that way.

But the one's where the person is not identifiable and captures a image of a person instead of a uniquely identifiable person, is more intrusive.

That photo of the Marine, could fit a lot of moments of time in the Iraq Theater.

Not comparing this at all to the horrors of war, using it to explain a common and individual photo.

However, it is like that naked picture I put up for Sarge's birthday. There was a couple people that just assumed it was me. It wasn't. Not that I haven't sat naked, I have and do, but because that person was not identifiable, She was able to be most anybody, that would sit naked at a party.

It became a common photo.

When you can identify the person, by any means, it is no longer a common photo.
IMO

[thome]

Is the "AP" doing the same thing..selling something to idiotic sheep....?


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[standin]

Thome there is a difference between glorification, and documentation and theatrics.

Violent video games and violent movies have more headway in moving a person toward or away the acceptance of violence, especially the way it is presented.

[hideyoursheep]

Later, she showed members of his squadron all the images taken that day and the Marines flipped through them on her computer one by one.

"They did stop when they came to that moment," she said. "But none of them complained or grew angry about it. They understood that it was what it was. They understand, despite that he was their friend, it was the reality of things."

That is all that really matters.

[hideyoursheep]

But on the flip side, why would they not show the splattered bodies of people from the twin towers that jumped?

They're out there, but who really needs to see them?

[hideyoursheep]

Sometimes I hate this goddamn forum.

[sadaist]

The thing about the iconic photos Kwame posted...yes, they do also show the moment prior to death, but there is still that belief factor. The person is still not dead and you must use your imagination as to what happened next. Although we know, we don't see the falling man hitting, or the Vietnamese man getting the bullet. With this marine , we actually see his legs blown off, blood, meat, etc...

That also goes to the movies like Saving Private Ryan. No matter how gory it is, in the back of our minds maybe we have a bit of relief because we know it's fake hollywood stuff...no matter how real it looks. You can cry at a movie when you see a guy die, but you get over it soon after and you can't wait to catch that same guys next movie. With the marine here, we know it's real.

I mean, if the picture showed the RPG a split second before impact it would be different and more like the previous photos here. We know what's going to happen, but we don't see it.

I don't know. I just feel real bad for this kid and his family. Ranting a bit but shit like this mixes me up pretty good. Hard to have a hard line position either way.

[standin]

Jeeze, this is not going to make no better. At that point, the Marine was not deceased yet. He died on the operating table.

[Igosplut]

I don't know. I just feel real bad for this kid and his family. Ranting a bit but shit like this mixes me up pretty good. Hard to have a hard line position either way.

Yes it is.

But there are people that NEED to see the reality of war in it's worst.

Especially the ones who vote for it. Just like a cop has to be pepper-sprayed or tazed before using them on others, they should see first hand what their vote commands....

[chefcraig]

But there are people that NEED to see the reality of war in it's worst.

Especially the ones who vote for it. Just like a cop has to be pepper-sprayed or tazed before using them on others, they should see first hand what their vote commands....

I know how harrowing it is for the loved ones of those that serve in our armed services to await the news of the fate of a family member fighting overseas, first hand. And I sympathize with the family of Lance Cpl. Joshua M. Bernard. At least the AP had the decency to wait until after the funeral to run the picture, but I highly question it being featured against the family's wishes.

But this isn't a question of journalistic integrity, which as we all know at this point in time is a nebulous issue, to say the least. I do believe however, that the act of recording the man's death to be a valuable service, not only to those that casually dismiss wartime losses as "the cost of doing business", yet someday, for the family itself. Hopefully, it may eventually allow for a form of the elusive concept of closure (if it exists at all), in being able to learn of the heroism their son displayed in his final moments while serving his country.

[thome]

standin:,Blaze was a Better poster:Thome there is a difference between glorification, and documentation and theatrics.

Nope there isn't just in the way they want you to think about the exact same pic.
Don't be a sheep to the contollers in the media that want to sell commercial time and buy new pool filters.

standin, where is Blaze:

Violent video games and violent movies have more headway in moving a person toward or away the acceptance of violence, especially the way it is presented.

Blaze would never play the fool and say something so absolutely rediculous.