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  • Sensible Shoes
    Full Member Status

    • Oct 2009
    • 4648

    #16
    Awful. Bad enough to give your life for your country in Afghanistan or Iraq - but on a U.S. Base? Can't wait to hear the investigation about this one.

    Oh dear.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #17
      Anyone who is stupid enough to open fire on a military base clearly wants to be taken out. He might be a terrorist or just a mentally disturbed person who wants to die and make the news at the same time. If it can happen at a school or university, it can happen at an army base.

      I wouldn't discount religion at all. This guy might have been earning his virgins. Fuck political correctness. Some sects of Islam believe this shit so what's to say he wasn't out to join the big orgy in Allah's paradise? Who knows what was going on in his disturbed mind.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58824

        #18
        **UPDATE**

        Whore media fucks up again - Major Hasan is NOT dead. He's in stable condition.

        (at least until somebody sneaks into his hospital room and shoots an air bubble in his IV )
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        • Big Train
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          • Apr 2004
          • 4013

          #19
          Nurse Elvis, it's time to come serve your country...

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58824

            #20
            I was thinking that, but didn't want to post it.
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            • Dr. Love
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7833

              #21
              I know he sounds muslim but come on ... 12 dead and 31 wounded with two handguns? The guy HAS to be Korean.
              I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

              http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #22
                Originally posted by FORD
                **UPDATE**

                Whore media fucks up again - Major Hasan is NOT dead. He's in stable condition.

                (at least until somebody sneaks into his hospital room and shoots an air bubble in his IV )
                Just read that and, of course, in their attempt to generate 24 hour news coverage....speculation and conjecture overrule substantiated and fact checks.
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                • kwame k
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 11302

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dr. Love
                  I know he sounds muslim but come on ... 12 dead and 31 wounded with two handguns? The guy HAS to be Korean.
                  I was thinking old school Clint Eastwood
                  Originally posted by vandeleur
                  E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    I wouldn't discount religion at all.
                    I have to agree, just too damn coincidential....
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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49219

                      #25
                      NYT: Suspect ‘mortified’ about deployment
                      Relatives: Ft. Hood suspect upset over being harassed about being Muslim

                      By JAMES DAO
                      The New York Times
                      updated 10:43 p.m. ET, Thurs., Nov . 5, 2009

                      WASHINGTON - Born and reared in Virginia, the son of immigrant parents from a small Palestinian town near Jerusalem, he joined the Army right out of high school, against his parents’ wishes. The Army, in turn, put him through college and then medical school, where he trained to be a psychiatrist.

                      But Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old man accused of Thursday’s mass shooting at Fort Hood, Tex., started having second thoughts about his military career a few years ago after other soldiers harassed him for being a Muslim, he told relatives in Virginia.

                      He had also more recently expressed deep concerns about being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. Having counseled scores of returning soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder, first at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew all too well the terrifying realities of war, said a cousin, Nader Hasan.

                      “He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy,” Mr. Hasan said. “He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there.”

                      Disturbing postings
                      The Federal Bureau of Investigation had earlier become aware of Internet postings by a man who called himself Nidal Hasan, a law enforcement official said. The postings discussed suicide bombing in a favorable light, but the investigators were not clear whether the writer was Major Hasan.

                      In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims.

                      “If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan.

                      Major Hasan was wounded and taken into custody by the Fort Hood police after the shooting spree, in which 12 people, many of them soldiers, were killed, and at least 31 others were wounded. The shootings occurred at a readiness center where soldiers are put through a series of medical, dental, legal and other paces in preparation for being deployed.

                      Though Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas reported that Major Hasan was to be deployed later this month, that could not be confirmed with the Army Thursday night.

                      Family shocked at news
                      Nader Hasan said his cousin never mentioned in recent phone calls to Virginia that he was going to be deployed, and he said the family was shocked when it heard the news on television Thursday afternoon.

                      “He was doing everything he could to avoid that,” Mr. Hasan said. “He wanted to do whatever he could within the rules to make sure he wouldn’t go over.”

                      Several years ago, that included retaining a lawyer and making inquiries about whether he could get out of the Army before his contract was up, because of the harassment he had received as a Muslim. But Nader Hasan said the lawyer had told his cousin that even if he paid the Army back for his education, it would not allow him to leave before his commitment was up.

                      “I think he gave up that fight and was just doing his time,” Mr. Hasan said.

                      Nader Hasan said his cousin’s parents had both been American citizens who owned businesses, including restaurants and a store, in Roanoke, Va. He declined to confirm reports that they were Jordanian, but said the parents, who are both dead, had immigrated from a small town near Jerusalem many years ago.

                      His mother’s obituary, published in The Roanoke Times in 2001, said she was born in Palestine in 1952. It described her as a restaurant owner “known for her ability to keep sometimes rowdy customers out of trouble and always had a warm meal for someone who otherwise would not have anything to eat that evening.”

                      Successful family
                      Records show that Major Hasan had received his undergraduate degree at Virginia Tech University and his medical degree at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.

                      He did his residency at Walter Reed Medical Center and then worked there for several years before being transferred to the Darnell Army Medical Center at Fort Hood earlier this year.

                      Major Hasan was not married and had two brothers, one living in Virginia and another in Jerusalem, his cousin said. The family, by and large, had prospered in the United States, with various members working in law, banking and medicine, Mr. Hasan said.

                      Nader Hasan, 40, a lawyer living in Northern Virginia, described his cousin as a respectful, hard-working man who had devoted himself to his parents and his career.

                      He said his cousin had been a practicing Muslim who had become more devout after the deaths of his parents, in 1998 and 2001. But he said he had not expressed anti-American views or radical ideas.

                      “His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said. “He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to the country.’ ”

                      David Johnston contributed from Washington.

                      This article, Hasan Was ‘Mortified’ About Deployment to War, appeared first in The New York Times.

                      Copyright © 2009 The New York Times

                      NYT: Suspect mortified about deployment - The New York Times- msnbc.com

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        #26
                        Not buying the, didn't want to deploy......for Christ's sake he was a psychiatrist!

                        His tour of duty would be a walk in the park.
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                        • ULTRAMAN VH
                          Commando
                          • May 2004
                          • 1480

                          #27
                          Originally posted by kwame k
                          Not buying the, didn't want to deploy......for Christ's sake he was a psychiatrist!

                          His tour of duty would be a walk in the park.
                          Agreed, and you can't join the military and not expect to be deployed. It is part of the job description. He had to know that before signing on the dotted line. The media should be ashamed of their coverage of this tragedy. Other than hearing the number 13, nothing has been said about the victims and the 13 families who will be attending their funerals. I don't want to hear excuses for this act of terrorism or the politically correct appeasement the media uses when horrible events like this take place.

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                          • BITEYOASS
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6530

                            #28
                            All I have to say is: WHO RECRUITED THIS MOTHERFUCKIN RAGHEAD?!?!?

                            I bet anyone unit that has somebody from a muslim nation other than Turkey or Kurdistan, is probably keeping a close watch on them.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58824

                              #29
                              This particular "raghead" was born in Virginia, and was in the military long before Chimpy's wars started. So there's no basis to say he signed up just to kill Americans.
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                              • ZahZoo
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 8973

                                #30
                                If the reports are correct this guy joined up as a patriotic american wanting to do his part. As a psychiatrist his job was helping and listening to horrors of war from his patients...

                                What doesn't make sense is if he joined out of high school and is 39 years old... why would he have a problem getting out of the military in the last few years. He's damn near eligible for full retirement.
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