13 killed in shootings at Fort Hood

[BITEYOASS]

Usually people I knew who wanted to get out the military that bad just went AWOL, made up some BS about them being gay or smoked a joint before seeing the CO.

[FORD]

If the reports are correct this guy joined up as a patriotic american wanting to do his part. As a psychiatrist his job was helping and listening to horrors of war from his patients...

What doesn't make sense is if he joined out of high school and is 39 years old... why would he have a problem getting out of the military in the last few years. He's damn near eligible for full retirement.

I've heard it's because his particular specialty - shrink dealing with traumatic stress - is so rare, that they have about one such doctor for every 700 soldiers. So the Army "strongly encourages" them to stay in. Maybe now, they'll rethink that policy?

[LoungeMachine]

: The media should be ashamed of their coverage of this tragedy.


Other than hearing the number 13, nothing has been said about the victims and the 13 families who will be attending their funerals.

Get serious, will ya?

You actually want the "media" bombarding the families with cameras, microphones, and questions??????????

What is it you feel you need to know? How much they hurt? How their lives are crushed?

WTF.

[Seshmeister]

Usually people I knew who wanted to get out the military that bad just went AWOL, made up some BS about them being gay or smoked a joint before seeing the CO.

How long do people sign up for at a time these days?

Surely by now anyone in the military signed after these bullshit wars had started?

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Hats off to Sgt. Kimberly Munley for confronting Hasan head on and stopping this mad man's killing spree. She is a courageous selfless hero!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

He's damn near eligible for full retirement.

Basically true, pension and benefits for life, albeit with premiums for you and your family for medical/dental that were free during active duty....

For pay, at 20 years, you get 1/2 your base pay and a couple of extras....

As you stay active duty longer, that percentage goes up....

It's been a while since I've looked ('cause I got mine, dammit), but I believe the percentage stops at 75% base pay after you hit 30 years....

But in reference to this guy, it's too obvious to me now, this is solely an ideology issue....

[LoungeMachine]

But in reference to this guy, it's too obvious to me now, this is solely an ideology issue....

Agreed.

File it under: "I'll show you my own war"

He'll go the way of McVey.

[BITEYOASS]

How long do people sign up for at a time these days?

Surely by now anyone in the military signed after these bullshit wars had started?

You'd figure that people would realize by now that joining the military means that you might go to war.

That's like working in the porn industry and not expecting to have sex.

[Kristy]

All I have to say is: WHO RECRUITED THIS MOTHERFUCKIN RAGHEAD?!?!?

Got some unfounded paranoid issues swimming around in that head of yours? Why not go to his hospital room and beat him to death with your Bible, asshole?

To me, if you're giving thoughts as to why Hasan went on a killing spree chances are good that he's heard this kind of talk aimed at his cultural background his whole life. Now, I'm not in any way forgiving that douchebag for calculating and taking the life of innocent and defenseless but something had to be stirring inside of his soul to make him snap like he did.

Personally, this whole tragedy makes me sick - as in real physically sick. Anybody who has lost a loved one knows the pain, anger, and sadness it can bring especially in such a violent and bizarre circumstance such as this. I've never been one to be a bandwagon jumper and slop a decal on my car that "Support Our Troops" believing that's all there is to it while someone who has return from Iraq is trying to cope with their life as a amputee or paraplegic. That whole blind patriotic rhetoric fucks me off more than anything. Support means giving of yourself to another who can't stand on their own quite yet. And if that sounds "socialist" to you then fuck you, too - go slap another sticker on your bumper.

This "war" in Iraq has become more and more meaningless each day with countless numbers of innocents dying, untold suffering and just the general ugliness of it all. All the "we're doing good over there" and "Mission accomplished" horsehit can no longer hide the horrid fact that this is affecting out troops on psychological levels that have never been seen before while military babbles on like a mutant infant on how to handle such a terrible mess.

So BITEYOURASS, all I have to say to you is fuck you for making such a hatred-filled statement that only fuels fires inside of people such as Hasan. No doubt Hasan is a fuckface who deserves to have his ass kicked (where in line do I have to wait to get my turn?) but is really beyond anyone's personal retribution except for a military firing squad as sunrise (with no last meal) but your not helping anyone here by saying that. Hate in any form always has a profound way of making itself known in the most despicable ways possible.

[BITEYOASS]

Got some unfounded paranoid issues swimming around in that head of yours? Why not go to his hospital room and beat him to death with your Bible, asshole?

To me, if you're giving thoughts as to why Hasan went on a killing spree chances are good that he's heard this kind of talk aimed at his cultural background his whole life. Now, I'm not in any way forgiving that douchebag for calculating and taking the life of innocent and defenseless but something had to be stirring inside of his soul to make him snap like he did.

Personally, this whole tragedy makes me sick - as in real physically sick. Anybody who has lost a loved one knows the pain, anger, and sadness it can bring especially in such a violent and bizarre circumstance such as this. I've never been one to be a bandwagon jumper and slop a decal on my car that "Support Our Troops" believing that's all there is to it while someone who has return from Iraq is trying to cope with their life as a amputee or paraplegic. That whole blind patriotic rhetoric fucks me off more than anything. Support means giving of yourself to another who can't stand on their own quite yet. And if that sounds "socialist" to you then fuck you, too - go slap another sticker on your bumper.

This "war" in Iraq has become more and more meaningless each day with countless numbers of innocents dying, untold suffering and just the general ugliness of it all. All the "we're doing good over there" and "Mission accomplished" horsehit can no longer hide the horrid fact that this is affecting out troops on psychological levels that have never been seen before while military babbles on like a mutant infant on how to handle such a terrible mess.

So BITEYOURASS, all I have to say to you is fuck you for making such a hatred-filled statement that only fuels fires inside of people such as Hasan. No doubt Hasan is a fuckface who deserves to have his ass kicked (where in line do I have to wait to get my turn?) but is really beyond anyone's personal retribution except for a military firing squad as sunrise (with no last meal) but your not helping anyone here by saying that. Hate in any form always has a profound way of making itself known in the most despicable ways possible.

Actually, I've been in the military and don't take kindly to people who tried to kill me a few years back, SO FUCK YOU! :fucku2::fupunk:

[Kristy]

Actually, I've been in the military and don't take kindly to people who tried to kill me a few years back, SO FUCK YOU! :fucku2::fupunk:

Well good for you, asshole. But your general statement still doesn't justify shit.

[hideyoursheep]

Got some unfounded paranoid issues swimming around in that head of yours? Why not go to his hospital room and beat him to death with your Bible, asshole?

Easy, Kristy.

It isn't too far fetched for an extremist to join the military, assimilate and go undetected. It's happened before. An Egyptian guy in SF at Bragg, I think. Hated Sadat....ever heard that one?

Then there was that fragging incident during the early stages of the Iraq invasion..

At least wait until the Feds sift through all his shit before you start assuming the wrong thing. You too, BYA.

[hideyoursheep]

Regardless of his motivation,

He. Should. Fucking. Hang.

[Sensible Shoes]

I've never been one to be a bandwagon jumper and slop a decal on my car that "Support Our Troops" believing that's all there is to it while someone who has return from Iraq is trying to cope with their life as a amputee or paraplegic. That whole blind patriotic rhetoric fucks me off more than anything. Support means giving of yourself to another who can't stand on their own quite yet. And if that sounds "socialist" to you then fuck you, too - go slap another sticker on your bumper..

While some people might think that "support our troops" means supporting the war or the military and government that's creating the war, it really means "support our troops". That is, the men and women as individuals who are putting their lives on the line - and not just while they're serving overseas. I think it's possible to "support our troops" and not support the war at all. But it means you also have to support the mentality of loyalty and desire to serve their country that makes these people sign up in the first place - then support the soldiers when that idealism might fail them. And especially after they return and try to adjust back to life in the states after witnessing life as most of us will never experience it.

As most things boil down in life, it's about respecting and taking care of other individuals. Supporting or not supporting the war is taking issue with policies of a government, and or the people who run it.

Small distinction, but an important one I think. And this has nothing to do with Hassan. He can rot in hell and I hope he does.

[thome]

Regardless of his motivation,

He. Should. Fucking. Hang.

But BCE shouldn't randomly kill every rat bastard he has in his sights ...

Hang one Hang e'm ALL!!

you qualify

but cannot justify

what is done is done.

to late to place blame.

just reek out your justice without equal rights having a place in your sentence.

here is a baseball bat

everyday is just like the other