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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #16
    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    You are quite ignorant of the facts, as usual. I guess the left-biased MSNBC didn't spoon feed you enough, huh?

    Just an example of GOP ideas on health care reform:
    BBB, where in that proposal does it address at all the 50 million people without healthcare ??
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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #17
      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
      BBB, where in that proposal does it address at all the 50 million people without healthcare ??
      I think that would be under "acquire health insurance at lower prices."

      Sorry, I don't think Uncle Sam is responsible for a person's health care premium. Somebody is going to have to pay for health care eventually, either the tax payer or the individual. I say the individual is responsible.

      Besides, what do you think is going to happen to Medicare if Obama's plan takes $500 Billion to pay for all that extra "free" coverage to those 37 million without coverage? I'll tell you what: less doctors and clinics accepting Medicare, and Medicare cutting benefits for things currently covered. There is no other way.
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      • Blackflag
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        • Apr 2006
        • 3406

        #18
        I love that "pro-Israel" is listed as its own industry for lobbying purposes.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #19
          I wonder how big the federal healthcare bureaucracy will be in ten years if this crap actually does somehow get forced through...

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          • ELVIS
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            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #20
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            Hmmm...

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35441

              #21
              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              Sorry, I don't think Uncle Sam is responsible for a person's health care premium. Somebody is going to have to pay for health care eventually, either the tax payer or the individual. I say the individual is responsible.
              The same system as they have in Somalia.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59141

                #22
                The Repukes keep pushing this idea of insurance companies being able to "sell across state lines". This is an absolutely horrible idea.

                Why is that? Look at your credit card bill. Where are you sending your payment? Odds are it says South Dakota.

                Now is Citibank actually based in South Dakota? Of course not. But South Dakota has absolutely no usury laws, so the banks open a credit card office there in order to charge the maximum in interest and fees. The insurance industry wants to be able to do the same, as well as the whole mandatory bulllshit.

                Too much effort being wasted on supporting such a corrupt industry. Just pull the plug and join the fucking 21st century already.
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                • Blackflag
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 3406

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  The same system as they have in Somalia.
                  Are you really arguing "go live in Somalia" again? Really?

                  I guess there's two systems in the world...the shining city on the hill that is "England"...and Somalia. Pick one.

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                  • sadaist
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11625

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jhale667

                    Agree he needs to preside over both factions...

                    That's all I was saying. Was just pointing out examples of where I felt he wasn't. Even though a President can belong to one party or the other, the office is bigger than either party. He needs to rise above and cut the partisan crap, and represent America.

                    I was thinking of an example of his cockiness and I thought of when he said he allowed himself extra time in the beginning because "I'm the President". Kind of a fuck you, I'm the big cheese so I get to do what I want. But then I remembered Bush saying "I'm the Decider" (or something close to it). Both were correct in that they are the head honcho, but most people want that person to be a bit more humble about it.
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                    • ELVIS
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #25
                      Yeah well, Obama will remain in campaign mode throughout his one-term presidency, and once this bill fails, Obama and the rest of the political left will continue to spin their wheels and remain out of touch with reality...


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                      • jhale667
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 20929

                        #26
                        Yeah, and the Repukes are &quot;in touch...&quot;

                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Yeah well, Obama will remain in campaign mode throughout his one-term presidency, and once this bill fails, Obama and the rest of the political left will continue to spin their wheels and remain out of touch with reality...


                        LMAO @ "out of touch with reality" from a bible-thumping Republican..
                        Originally posted by conmee
                        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                        That is all.

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                        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                        Originally posted by Isaac R.
                        Then it's really true??

                        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                        Originally posted by eddie78
                        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                        • ELVIS
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                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #27
                          I'm not a republican...

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            I'm not a republican...
                            OK, you just agree with them 98% of the time....
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35441

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blackflag
                              Are you really arguing "go live in Somalia" again? Really?

                              I guess there's two systems in the world...the shining city on the hill that is "England"...and Somalia. Pick one.
                              You're right there are basically two systems in the world.

                              The one every first world country apart from the USA has and the one the USA and the poor countries have.

                              If you are a rich banker type then you are morally bankrupt.

                              If you aren't then you are stupid clinging on to a load of bullshit whilst getting totally ripped off.

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35441

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ELVIS
                                I'm not a republican...
                                The Jesus described in the bible was a communist so I guess as a follower of that you must be too.

                                That's one of my problems with the Jesus thing, he's too left wing for my taste.

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