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  • Blackflag
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    • Apr 2006
    • 3406

    #16
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    You do know that the world wide web that allows you to make that post came from research into particle physics at CERN?
    And that's what they tell Europeans so they'll support space and defense funding. They tell us it was invented at DARPA. It's all PR. Trust me, I'm very well aware of research funding and the fruits that come from it. And NASA is a waste.


    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    resulted from technologies and information learned by space scientists:
    And what does "resulted from" mean, when we're talking PR-speak? NASA claims the microwave oven came from NASA. Then a guy at Raytheon (?) said he invented it, and it had nothing to do with the space program.

    DARPA says it invented the internet. CERN says it did. Al Gore says he did. The ethernet protocol was invented by a guy at Xerox - and Xerox has nothing to do with space exploration.

    MRI? It was invented by an MD who had no connection to NASA. http://www.ehow.com/about_4599974_who-invented-mri.html Though, I think the initial concept actually went back to research in Eastern Europe, if I remember - which, again, has nothing to do with NASA or CERN.

    Anything good that NASA claims came from the space program is either: a) bullshit, b) has nothing to do with space and could just as easily been developed on the ground, or c) was flat-out developed by researchers who aren't interested in space.






    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Studies show that every dollar put into scientific research returns 15. The only chance of your country having anything left to export to the world than entertainment and wars in the future is through science and technology.
    I am 100% behind research funding. Every dollar spent on Goldman Sachs should have been spent on technology companies and technology education. You're right - that's the best ROI. What I'm against is then burning that research money on fruitless bullshit who's end result is putting an American flag on Mars and taking a picture.

    You think inventing new medical imaging technologies like MRI is awesome? The best way to do that is to devote funding to medical research. Not spending money watching how frogs fuck in space and hoping somebody happens to dream up something useful at the same time.

    Clueless fuck.
    Last edited by Blackflag; 04-15-2010, 06:00 PM. Reason: (insult)

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35762

      #17
      I think from now on you should sign all your posts 'Clueless fuck', it saves time for newbies.

      Your post demonstrates your ignorance not least in that you don't even know the difference between the internet and the world wide web.

      Yet another topic where you are totally out your depth.

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      • Blackflag
        Banned
        • Apr 2006
        • 3406

        #18
        Insightful response.




        Bottom line - if you want useful and profitable inventions here on earth, there are any number of universities and companies you can fund. And plenty of people looking for work. The least effective way to do that is to fly to Mars first and keep your fingers crossed that something useful comes of it.

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #19
          Originally posted by MAX
          Even though I'd love nothing more to use this as an opportunity to rip on Barry some more, I cannot. I mean going to Mars would be ok but I don't see the point with everything else as fucked up as it is? I think we should try fixing where we reside before we venture off and start fucking up another planet with platinum credit cards and sneakers with lights in 'em. JMHO.
          Agreed. With current technology, it would take 2.5 years for a manned craft/rocket/shuttle/whatever to reach Mars.

          That means a whole lotta Billions are going to need to be sunk into research and development before that Mars Mission happens.
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35762

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackflag
            Insightful response.




            Bottom line - if you want useful and profitable inventions here on earth, there are any number of universities and companies you can fund. And plenty of people looking for work. The least effective way to do that is to fly to Mars first and keep your fingers crossed that something useful comes of it.

            Yours sincerely

            Clueless Fuck
            Fixed.

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            • Blackflag
              Banned
              • Apr 2006
              • 3406

              #21
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              Fixed.
              Again, great response. I guess that means you reached the end of the road on your CERN PR knowledge.

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              • PETE'S BROTHER
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Feb 2007
                • 12678

                #22
                shit, first sesh deletes posts and threads of ace's. now he's hacking bf's account? who gave him all these powers?
                Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  You do know that the world wide web that allows you to make that post came from research into particle physics at CERN?
                  Sesh, space research is fine...and should be continued (although I do believe some of the items claimed on your list are utter bullshit) but we need balance to this... we need some of that money to pay on the accelerating deficit Obamacare is going to wreak on this country. Americans haven't seen real debt yet...but they will.

                  Hillary Clinton 2012!!!! At this point she's ahead of Barry in polls for the 2012 Democratic Primary. Now if we can just get her to quit boozin' it up at State, resign, and run.
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • kwame k
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 11302

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    Sesh, space research is fine...and should be continued (although I do believe some of the items claimed on your list are utter bullshit) but we need balance to this... we need some of that money to pay on the accelerating deficit Obamacare is going to wreak on this country. Americans haven't seen real debt yet...but they will.

                    Hillary Clinton 2012!!!! At this point she's ahead of Barry in polls for the 2012 Democratic Primary. Now if we can just get her to quit boozin' it up at State, resign, and run.
                    Stop spending 65% of our budget on our military would be a good first step.........
                    Originally posted by vandeleur
                    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35762

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blackflag
                      Again, great response. I guess that means you reached the end of the road on your CERN PR knowledge.
                      I can't be fucked arguing with you on a 'the sky is not blue' issue.

                      Tim Berners-Lee came up with the idea of the world wide web, designed it and implemented it whilst he was at CERN.

                      That's all there is to it.

                      Use it to look up the facts.

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kwame k
                        Stop spending 65% of our budget on our military would be a good first step.........
                        Who would protect the free world then, Scotland?

                        Better yet, let's get the 50% of the income earning public that don't pay taxes to START paying taxes. Yeah, I'd support that goddamned tax increase. You betcha I would. People wonder why more people aren't involved with our government, don't vote, or outright don't give a fuck: they have no vested interest, no stake, in America! I'm not suggesting anything drastic....just something to get them off the sidelines and into the game.
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35762

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          Who would protect the free world then, Scotland?
                          Protect it from what? Protect it from whom?

                          Anyway with a 65% cut you would still be spending far more than anyone else.

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                          • kwame k
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 11302

                            #28
                            The real question is why you think we have to save the free world and exactly who are we saving it from? Terraist........
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10625

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              implemented it whilst he was at CERN.
                              I think it's funny as hell when you island people use "whilst" instead of "while."
                              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                              • sadaist
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11625

                                #30
                                Originally posted by kwame k
                                This is good news......since we are a nation of explorers this is awesome.
                                And you believe him? Mars within his lifetime and Guantanamo closed within a year. Yeah, sure.
                                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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