New York City approves plans for Mosque in the shadow of Ground Zero

[Nickdfresh]

where did you get that from? Al Qaida attack in Indonesia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq,.... ok, more likely to kill more muslims than westerners.

Okay, so you agree then? Al Qaida (as far as it exists as any hierarchical organization) is far more likely to cut its own balls off by alienating the very population they seek to rally to their cause via mass violence.

Al Qaida attack in America is far more likely to kill Westerners than muslims - I tend to believe Al Qaida would love another successful attack on American soil.

And Americans are thousands of times more likely to die in a car accident, or get struck by lightening for that matter, than they are to die in an al Qaida attack. I mean if the best they got was some Paki douche that couldn't rig a half-way decent car bomb...

[FORD]

i think building mosque shows that us amercians have tolerence, that is a good thing

"US Americans"?? Yeah, right......

[Sensible Shoes]

I"m feeling a little racist today - but I guess the best answer is let 'em build it and fill it with bugs and spyware. The moment a sleeper cell begins, fly an airplane into it. Preferably on auto pilot cause Americans don't believe in that 19 virgins thing. We have porn.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

A lot of Muslims died on 9/11 in the Towers. And al Qaida is far more likely to kill other Muslims in terrorist attacks than they are Westerners....

Really? please try and explain that one to the families of the 13 killed and 31 injured at Fort Hood. Hmm, and the possible death tolls that could have mounted on Christmas day and the Times Square incident. No the missions did not come to fruition, but the goal was to take out a large number of Westerners.

[jhale667]

It's actually supposed to be two blocks away, from everything I've heard. BFD. It's not like they want to put it AT ground zero. Or we were attacked by ISLAM as a whole. It was a group of zealot assholes. Y'know, like our homegrown Xtian ones that blow up abortion clinics, or federal buildings. It should be allowed - as a symbol of US tolerance.


Just something else for the neocons to get their panties in a bunch about.

[Mushroom]

And Americans are thousands of times more likely to die in a car accident, or get struck by lightening for that matter, than they are to die in an al Qaida attack. I mean if the best they got was some Paki douche that couldn't rig a half-way decent car bomb...

Oh come on Nick you're getting sidetracked, you're better than that. We are talking about your broad statement that "al Qaida is far more likely to kill other Muslims in terrorist attacks than they are Westerners...."... not talking about Americans' probability of death by other accidents.

[Mushroom]

I don't know where exactly the mosque is going but only a tool would say "oh yeah, that's a great idea, let's put a mosque at ground zero" -- why, so we can show our reverence for muslims? so we can not avoid hurting their feelings? They can put it anywhere, down the streeet from my house. But ground zero is ridiculous.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

would there be a similarity in a white supremist group having a clubhouse a half mile from auschwitz?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

As LM said, if you believe in the premise that one of the main objectives of Al-Qaida is to disrupt every facet of the American way of life that they can, then refusing to build a mosque a couple of blocks away from Ground Zero is EXACTLY what they want the U.S. to do....

Now don't get me wrong, I think the complete mythology of religion has fucked the world up for centuries now.... But if you're stupid and naive enough to believe in ANY religion, our Constitution guarantees the FREEDOM to be that stupid and naive....

[Jagermeister]

This thing is a trophy for these sick bastards. Don't get me started!

[jhale667]

As LM said, if you believe in the premise that one of the main objectives of Al-Qaida is to disrupt every facet of the American way of life that they can, then refusing to build a mosque a couple of blocks away from Ground Zero is EXACTLY what they want the U.S. to do....

Now don't get me wrong, I think the complete mythology of religion has fucked the world up for centuries now.... But if you're stupid and naive enough to believe in ANY religion, our Constitution guarantees the FREEDOM to be that stupid and naive....

Exactly. All the "trophy" commentary completely misses the point - and PLAYS INTO THE TERRA-ISTS HANDS....don't be as stupid and reactionary as they're hoping you'll be (farting in Sockfucker and Jag's general direction).

[chefcraig]

As LM said, if you believe in the premise that one of the main objectives of Al-Qaida is to disrupt every facet of the American way of life that they can, then refusing to build a mosque a couple of blocks away from Ground Zero is EXACTLY what they want the U.S. to do....

Now don't get me wrong, I think the complete mythology of religion has fucked the world up for centuries now.... But if you're stupid and naive enough to believe in ANY religion, our Constitution guarantees the FREEDOM to be that stupid and naive....

Exactly. All the "trophy" commentary completely misses the point - and PLAYS INTO THE TERRA-ISTS HANDS....don't be as stupid and reactionary as they're hoping you'll be (farting in Sockfucker and Jag's general direction).

Ya know, when we were discussing the whole concept of letting the terrorists win a couple of months ago, it struck me then (as it does now) that if these dolts had a brain in their otherwise empty heads, rather than aiming their suicide bombs and vengeful hate at the trappings of American government and commerce, all they'd really have to do to have the effect they are desiring is to take out the cable company. For some reason, people will put up with inept, unfeeling and completely out-to-lunch politicians, rising inflation, inflated gas prices, lousy health care options or even polluted beaches, but by God if they can't watch an episode of Jersey Shore or Hell's Kitchen, they will go positively batshit.

[Nickdfresh]

Really? please try and explain that one to the families of the 13 killed and 31 injured at Fort Hood.

The shooter-cunt was an ironically mentally ill fuckwit who should have been removed from his duties long before that day as he was clearly flagged for being an impulsive, violent asshole. The U.S. Army needs to explain why this dick-lick was allowed to be a psychiatrist for so long despite the repeated objections and warnings of coworkers who tended to notice his psychotic tenancies. But then, there are mass-shootings every month in this country, and few are conducted by those dastardly, Stepford-children of Allah and Mohammad.

Some are actually attributed to nice white racist Americans like the Dylan and Klebold fag-fisters...

Hmm, and the possible death tolls that could have mounted on Christmas day and the Times Square incident. No the missions did not come to fruition, but the goal was to take out a large number of Westerners.

Possible. But it didn't, but the secret terrorist agent was an incompetent fuckwad that couldn't order a pizza to save his life much less launch a successful, bloody attack. That is somewhat comforting. What's less comforting is that thousands died on that Christmas Day via accidents and suicide without the slightest paranoia or reflection by the American public...

[Nickdfresh]

would there be a similarity in a white supremist group having a clubhouse a half mile from auschwitz?

What a bullshit analogy. A more appropriate one would be GERMANS erecting a monument and a house of worship near Auschwitz, as not all Germans were Nazis and not all Nazis/fascists were Germans in WWII. There were in fact many Americans sympathetic to culling the "evil", "greedy" "hook-nosed" Jews...

(For those too fucking stupid to recognize irony and sarcasm, I'm against antisemitism and stereotypes in general)...

[Nickdfresh]

Oh come on Nick you're getting sidetracked, you're better than that. We are talking about your broad statement that "al Qaida is far more likely to kill other Muslims in terrorist attacks than they are Westerners...."... not talking about Americans' probability of death by other accidents.

Well, what is your point exactly? Because, the last time I checked, the biggest victims of "al Qaida" violence were Iraqis dying in senseless car bombings and the hated enforcements of some retarded, fascist notion "Islamic law" that never existed to begin with...