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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49570

    #31
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    You are correct.

    Who knew drummers could come up with stuff like that...

    Especially ones that subscribe to Ayn Randian bullshit.

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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21897

      #32
      I have one that has a peace sign made of stars in the blue field, instead of a standard 50 stars. Always wanted one since I was little chilluns as I saw photos of hippies that had them back in the 60s.

      But of course I also have one with 50 stars.

      Call me strange, but I HATE flags that are made of polyester or any kind of plastic. They are just cheap pieces of imitation shit!

      To me, it should be made of 100% cotton.

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      • Hardrock69
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Feb 2005
        • 21897

        #33
        I have one that has a peace sign made of stars in the blue field, instead of a standard 50 stars. Always wanted one since I was little chilluns as I saw photos of hippies that had them back in the 60s.

        But of course I also have one with 50 stars.

        Call me strange, but I HATE flags that are made of polyester or any kind of plastic. They are just cheap pieces of imitation shit!

        To me, it should be made of 100% cotton.

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        • sadaist
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jul 2004
          • 11625

          #34
          Originally posted by Hardrock69

          To me, it should be made of 100% cotton.

          And NOT made in China.
          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #35
            Proud to be an Uh-merican!

            Originally posted by sadaist
            Here's a flag worth unfurling.

            That picture set just never gets old. God bless America indeed. But seriously...

            I still have the one from my father's casket - he was a WWII vet, got the full military salute send-off. Pretty sure the standard Presidential "thank you for your service" letter Mom got was signed by Reagan (or y'know, the machine that copied his signature). Which means that was so long ago it probably wasn't MADE IN CHINA.

            It's a symbol of freedom - that many hide behind. And though I get the "liberal" tag around here, seeing Immigration Reform functions marred by idiots flying the Mexican flag over ours infuriated me. Plus, "way to help your cause", y'know?

            I'm also glad we live in a country where burning it as a form of protest isn't punishable by death, though it still makes you a douche-nozzle if you DO. So there doesn't need to be a law to "protect" it. It's already a universal truth.

            And to Sesh's point , yeah we were the greatest country on the planet for a minute, but not without slaughtering an indigenous people while propped up on the backs of slaves. Stupid to deny it. We could be the greatest country in the world again without all the bloodshed, but not looking like it yet. Not to say you cant still Rock in America, though don't get it twisted...

            Thanks for posting this one sadaist


            I always loved that pic too...
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • knuckleboner
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2927

              #36
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Freedom. So that flag means a lot to people who understand the ideal; even though, at times we have fell short of reaching it.
              exactly. especially when we try to outlaw desecrating in. that definitely falls short of the ideal.

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #37
                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                You are correct.

                Who knew drummers could come up with stuff like that...
                I met Niel Piert way back during the Signals tour. He's actually a Ontario farm boy and a trained jazz drummer. He was working at his father's farm implement store selling tractors and combines before he joined RUSH. Apparently he reads a lot and puts a lot of his own spiritual and political views into the lyrics. Rush lyrics make you think. Intelligent rock and roll so to speak as oppossed to being about chasing ass and getting stoned.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #38
                  Originally posted by sadaist
                  Here's a flag worth unfurling.

                  Makes me proud to be an American!
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #39
                    I think the United States was a noble idea that got hijacked. I think it was put together by weathy and influencial people who really didn't like what was going on in their world at the time so they put together a system that over time would hopefully undo the ills of Monarchy dictatorship, Church rule, and multiple generations of elite families keeping the power.

                    What happened is the robber barons eventually bought everything up and the old system of tyranny is systematically coming back. The worst of it happened when the production of money was taken from the elected government and handed over to a group of private bankers. Much of the slavery and native genocide can be linked to the robber barrons who bought the politicians more than the average American citizen. The indians were in the way of mining, logging, railroads, ect... Slaves were needed until machinery could replace them. That being said, American companies like Wal-Mart and Hanes just use overseas slaves. Slavery hasn't gone away. The plantations and sweat shops just exist in the third world now. We export the work instead of bring the slaves here.

                    A good idea is still a good idea and that is what the US Constitution is. It's a standard to live by and sadly we have fell short of it.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35764

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      I met Niel Piert way back during the Signals tour. He's actually a Ontario farm boy and a trained jazz drummer. He was working at his father's farm implement store selling tractors and combines before he joined RUSH. Apparently he reads a lot and puts a lot of his own spiritual and political views into the lyrics. Rush lyrics make you think. Intelligent rock and roll so to speak as oppossed to being about chasing ass and getting stoned.

                      I've got his book lying around somewhere but I haven't got around to reading it.

                      The story of him trying to get over the death of his daughter and wife.

                      I don't think it is a laugh a minute...

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                      • chefcraig
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 12172

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        I've got his book lying around somewhere but I haven't got around to reading it.

                        The story of him trying to get over the death of his daughter and wife.

                        I don't think it is a laugh a minute...
                        I assume you are talking about Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road. The book is more a therapy course for the man, mixed with some solid travel writing. It is fairly tough sledding, as one can only imagine the grief and sorrow the man felt after first losing his daughter, then his wife shortly thereafter. He firmly believes his wife's spirit faded with the death of the girl, leading to her demise as well. It is also truly poignant in places, describing epic beauty amongst harsh conditions, which serves metaphorically for what the man was enduring. All in all, of the four books Peart has written, this is the most remarkable, yet it is a read that takes some conviction to get through.









                        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                        ― Stephen Hawking

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #42
                          Originally posted by knuckleboner
                          exactly. especially when we try to outlaw desecrating in. that definitely falls short of the ideal.
                          I don't have a problem with people desecrating our flag.

                          However, those same people that desecrate our flag shouldn't have a problem with other people "desecrsting" their heads with baseball bats.
                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49570

                            #43
                            Yes, all hallowed is our sanctified, Chinese-made Old Glory banners!

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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10625

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              I've got his book lying around somewhere but I haven't got around to reading it.

                              The story of him trying to get over the death of his daughter and wife.

                              I don't think it is a laugh a minute...
                              Read it.

                              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35764

                                #45
                                Originally posted by chefcraig
                                I assume you are talking about Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road. The book is more a therapy course for the man, mixed with some solid travel writing. It is fairly tough sledding, as one can only imagine the grief and sorrow the man felt after first losing his daughter, then his wife shortly thereafter. He firmly believes his wife's spirit faded with the death of the girl, leading to her demise as well. It is also truly poignant in places, describing epic beauty amongst harsh conditions, which serves metaphorically for what the man was enduring. All in all, of the four books Peart has written, this is the most remarkable, yet it is a read that takes some conviction to get through.
                                Yeah I think I read a chapter or two when I first got it.

                                I think you have to be in the right mood to take on something like that. Maybe I'll give it another go.

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