If You Believe America Has Lousy Health Care, Here's Why

[Seshmeister]

The insurance companies made sure that the politicians screwed you.

[Jagermeister]

The insurance companies made sure that the politicians screwed you.

Someone edited that post for some reason.

[Jagermeister]

I'm still trying to figure out how Obama care is helping me. My fucking insurance premiums are going up 20% on renewing. My wife is stressed the fuck out and so am I.

Thanks for your help on this Obama. I really appreciate that shit.

[Seshmeister]

I don't have any health insurance premiums.

It's great.

[Nitro Express]

I don't have any health insurance premiums.

It's great.

Yes you do. It's called taxes and the UK has plenty of those. If it's so great there how come a huge number living over there want to leave?

[Nitro Express]

I'm still trying to figure out how Obama care is helping me. My fucking insurance premiums are going up 20% on renewing. My wife is stressed the fuck out and so am I.

Thanks for your help on this Obama. I really appreciate that shit.

You just described Obama care in your post. Pay your inflated premiums or go to jail. To be honest, I think we are going to dumb Obamacare or just ignore it.

[Nitro Express]

There are nice hospitals in other countries but you have to be rich to get into them. I have relatives in Alberta and they all come down here if they need surgery done. They can afford it and it's better in the states.

[binnie]

Yes you do. It's called taxes and the UK has plenty of those. If it's so great there how come a huge number living over there want to leave?

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There are always people who claim that they want to leave, but people always think that the grass is greener on the other side, right? A lot of people claim to hate their jobs, but they never leave those either....

But yes, we do have lot of taxes. Such is life.

[Seshmeister]

Yes you do. It's called taxes and the UK has plenty of those.

I used to think that but then I discovered that the average Brit pays the same if not less tax than the average American.

Here's an example

http://plonkee.com/2008/08/18/do-brits-really-pay-more-tax-than-americans/

You are getting screwed. I think a lot of it is to do with the military insanity.

We also get a lot more days vacation BTW.

[binnie]

I think once you factor in sales taxes Sesh we will pay more....

[Seshmeister]

I don't think so, remember they have sales tax too although at a lower rate and there are a lot of VAT exemptions here.

Also the example I linked included sales tax/VAT in any case.

In other things like booze and cigarette tax the US has caught up in the last few years.

I did an online quote for healthcare insurance if I was in the US and I would be at least $1200 a month for the family.

[binnie]

I've no doubt that health care is more expensive. However, sales taxes are lower and the US is much cheaper for fuel. Most of the US students I teach do little but piss and moan about how expensive life is here (they still seem to eat a fuck of a lot though :D)

I also doubt that booze costs as much. How much is a pint in your city centre? £3? Is a pint of beer really $6 in America? Are cigarrettes really $11 for a pack of 20? I have no idea but I can't imagine that they are.....

[Seshmeister]

It's not $2 to the £ any more unfortunately, closer to $1.5.

Petrol/Gas is still much cheaper in the US about half the price but they have to travel a lot further.

Cigarettes are a bit cheaper too, $5 compared to $7. Booze out of a shop is about the same nowadays, in a bar you have to buy imported or premium beer(domestic stuff is piss weak) which is about $4.50-$5 so about the same.

Things have changed a lot in the last 10-15 years and especially now the exchange rate is poor.

Anyway this argument has nothing to do with cost of living it's about % tax and what you get for it.

[Nickdfresh]

Yes you do. It's called taxes and the UK has plenty of those. If it's so great there how come a huge number living over there want to leave?

The higher taxes are probably somewhat exaggerated, since the U.K. probably spends a fraction of its GNP on its military budget than does the U.S.

[Nickdfresh]

I think once you factor in sales taxes Sesh we will pay more....

I pay 8.75% sales tax. What do you pay?