Election results thread

[Dr. Love]

shut up retard

[Guitar Shark]

shut up retard

Why don't you make like a tree... and get outta here

[Dr. Love]

Why don't you make like a tree... and get outta here

That's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship.

[sadaist]

Why don't you make like a tree... and get outta here

That's fucking funny!

That's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship.

That's fucking even funnier!

[Nitro Express]

I see the Californians voted for an end to gerrymandering which is good surely?

The US is the only developed democracy in the world that allows the politicians to decide who votes for them by rigging the boundaries of districts- fucking madness which leads to most seats being safe seats, corruption and ineffectualness.

It's too dull and complex an issue for most people to be interested in but it's really important in deciding who you end up with running shit.

First of all the United States is not a democracy. It's a constitutional republic. The district voting is regarding house representatives which is based on population. Each state gets two senators so the large populated states like California and New York don't have a monopoly on voting power over the small states like South Dakota.

Sure a district can only vote for certain people but the sum of all the districts go into the house where they vote as one body. The system is set up this way because people in their own local areas will know people running out of their districts more than someone in another part of the state. If the people in that particular district choose to keep voting losers in, then I guess it's a dumb district.

[Nitro Express]

As far as FOX News and MSNBC go. The bottom line is ratings. FOX chose to go with an all conservative format and has done real well with it. MSNBC went from a middle of the road CNN type format to being all liberal and their ratings are hurting right now. Olberman used to be popular when Bush was running the show but with half a term of Democrat rule, people are tired of it. CNN is middle of the road and ratings are down. If anything this shows conservatives watch more television or just FOX or liberals watch a more diverse spread of networks than just one, or watch less television.

[Nitro Express]

It's seems like hanging on the right and promoting it is a good way to make money. Even Geraldo Rivera jumped on the wagon. The Annoying Bill O' Riley is up in the ratings, Sarah Palin is now a multi-millionare tying Barrack Obama in personal wealth, and Rush Limbaugh when from being a poor DJ in Sacramento to a rich tycoon in Palm Beach. Conservatism=$$$$$$$$ in today's market. Not that I like any of these people but it's just a fact. I'm suprised Gene Simmons isn't waving the flag in a cowboy hat yet.

[Seshmeister]

As far as FOX News and MSNBC go. The bottom line is ratings. FOX chose to go with an all conservative format and has done real well with it. MSNBC went from a middle of the road CNN type format to being all liberal and their ratings are hurting right now. Olberman used to be popular when Bush was running the show but with half a term of Democrat rule, people are tired of it. CNN is middle of the road and ratings are down. If anything this shows conservatives watch more television or just FOX or liberals watch a more diverse spread of networks than just one, or watch less television.

I think it's that many conservatives are hardcore Christians and so used to being told what to think.

[jhale667]

I think it's that many conservatives are hardcore Christians and so used to being told what to think.

More like told NOT to, and to let someone else do it for them. The pastor, the Pope, a politician...whatevs.

[GAR]

Those nutty Christians - always consulting the Bible as basis for discernment between what is or isn't rubbish, huh? Get them.. so funny huh..

Kinda like the Founding Fathers, those dumbskulls - always consulting the Bible - praying, fellowshipping, creating consensus between their own desires and what the Bible says is or is not a bad way to go in creating laws and the Constitutional government..

[jhale667]

The founding fathers were the ones who originally recognized the fundamental NEED for church- state separation, GAyR... that's why it's guaranteed in the Constitution.

[Satan]

I know more about the Bible and Christianity than you ever will, GAyR, and I'm the god damned Devil!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I know more about the Bible and Christianity than you ever will, GAyR, and I'm the god damned Devil!

cue ugly kid joe....

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[chefcraig]

The founding fathers were the ones who originally recognized the fundamental NEED for church- state separation...that's why it's guaranteed in the Constitution.

No kidding. They were pretty much filled with contempt for those who tended to proselytize, and were highly distrustful of those that did. However, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. Only the First Amendment makes mention that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

[jhale667]

No kidding. They were pretty much filled with contempt for those who tended to proselytize, and were highly distrustful of those that did. However, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution. Only the First Amendment makes mention that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

True, but in one of Thomas Jefferson's writings from 1802, I think, he specifically mentions that they intended for there to be a "Wall of Separation" between the two in the First Amendment.