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  • PETE'S BROTHER
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2007
    • 12678

    #31
    Originally posted by sadaist
    Especially now that Democrats made them take away the free toy.

    unless you change the fries for preserved apple slices with sugar paste caramel dipping sauce, then you get the piece of shit plastic from china
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35755

      #32
      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
      REAL Americans would never buy into the ICC thing.

      Yeah, let's let a bunch of Socialist Europeans try American citizens and toss the US Constitution out the window.

      Besides, your "threat" of allowing the International Kangaroo Court to try US citizens will NEVER clear the HOUSE.
      It's not a 'bunch of Socialist Europeans' who are signed up to the International Criminal Court, it's virtually every country in the world apart from the US, Burma and Russia.

      As far as it not going through the House I agree, it can't go through the House because your system has become corrupted.

      Otherwise how could the report of the US general investigating the Abu Ghraib atrocities find the Bush administration committed war crimes and then just be ignored?

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #33
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        It's not a 'bunch of Socialist Europeans' who are signed up to the International Criminal Court, it's virtually every country in the world apart from the US, Burma and Russia.

        As far as it not going through the House I agree, it can't go through the House because your system has become corrupted.

        Otherwise how could the report of the US general investigating the Abu Ghraib atrocities find the Bush administration committed war crimes and then just be ignored?
        No shit the system has been corrupted. It's because Americans don't pay attention to what the politicians are doing and there is plenty of lobbyists in Washington to corrupt. What does work is staying on your elected officials. I wrote all the ones who won on our county ballot and congratulated them on their win. Then I said I want the spending cut and I don't care about pork. If everyone did this, things would change. You are always going to have some bad, corrupt politicians but if we ride them the whole time and not just durning election, we might be able to turn things.

        Also, we need at least two parties in control. If either of them get total control it's total disaster. If you are a consevative, clean up your party. If you are a liberal clean up your party. Get some good people in office and we all agree on the important issues. We might differ on how to solve them but we need to cut the spending and bring industry back. We can't print our way out of the mess, we are going to have to produce our way out and the outsourcing has to stop.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #34
          The printing of currency and inflation is here to stay no matter what party gets in...

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35755

            #35
            The candidates will look at your little letter, then they'll think about who is going to pay for their re-election campaign and act accordingly.

            Like here there are vast amounts of US government spending that they simply can't touch like pensions because they are legally committed to them. Of the remainder or discretionary spending military spending makes up 55%.

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            • GAR
              Banned
              • Jan 2004
              • 10881

              #36
              How much more different is that in the UK -

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16751

                #37
                Originally posted by sadaist
                1 thing I credit him with is always speaking from his heart & not trying to cover up whatever his true intentions or feelings are.
                Oh, FUCKING PLU-EZE!

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  The printing of currency and inflation is here to stay no matter what party gets in...
                  That's why there is a worldwide run on real assets. Commodity prices will go through the roof while paper assets tumble. The truth of the matter is central fractional reserve banking is just one big ponzi scheme and it's coming to an end. Everyone talks about all the debt we have ran up. Ok, we are in a huge amount of debt but where did the money come from that we borrowed? Simple, it came from nothing. Let's use China as an example. They have loaned us close to $1 Trillion. Where did they get that trillion? They printed it out of nothing. In fact, The Federal Reserve could print everything but you help keep the illusion of worth going by taxing the public and borrowing money. At the end of the day it's all bullshit and if the masses wake up to this, then the game is up. If we give our debtors real assets to pay the debt off then of course they have ripped us off.

                  What's going to eventually happen is the dollar will inflate to being almost worthless and when the multiplier is zero, you can have a gazillion dollars of debt and still not owe a thing. But you don't want to have your personal assets in dollars when that happens. Then we trade something else. Basically, the whole worldwide central banking system is melting down and everyone is cutting rates to zero and the banks are buying stocks with printed money rallying the stock market but gold still shoots up. It's obvious the whole system is rigged and being played.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    The candidates will look at your little letter, then they'll think about who is going to pay for their re-election campaign and act accordingly.

                    Like here there are vast amounts of US government spending that they simply can't touch like pensions because they are legally committed to them. Of the remainder or discretionary spending military spending makes up 55%.
                    Not if they get enough letters. They have to have the votes to get re-elected and the public still owns those. Basically what I'm saying is Joe Public actually has more power than he thinks if he has the numbers. Hey, if people just want to continue watching TV and drinking beer and not have any clue who their congressman is, then we're fucked. We can blame the politicians and the lobbyists but they only take it all over when the public lets them do it.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #40
                      If you have 20% of the public motivated, you can take the government back. You don't need a majority. Most people just sit on the fence. But if you have a well organized and motivated 20%, you can do it.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35755

                        #41
                        Originally posted by GAR
                        How much more different is that in the UK -
                        It's far from perfect but there are two key rules that would hugely help the US.

                        a) Political TV and Radio adverts are illegal. A few slots are allocated to the parties and the broadcasters have to show them as part of their license for free.

                        b) There is a spending limit for each candidate of about $40k plus 10c per voter in each seat. That would translate for a Senate seat in California to about $1.5 million, they currently spend 100 times that.

                        The main parties centrally still rely on donations and often take them from big business but because of (a) the total for an election of all the seats is usually under about $12m per major party.

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                        • ace diamond
                          Full Member Status

                          • Sep 2004
                          • 3863

                          #42
                          ok, folks-let's simplify this whole debate.
                          all politicians are greedy and corrupt lying fucking sacks of shit who are only out for themselves by any means necessary.
                          absolute power absolutely corrupts.
                          it's the eternal quest for who can gain the most power and possess more quantities of the almighty dollar than everyone else....
                          etc, etc, etc,.............
                          here, i'm now going to hand the reigns over to ozzy to assist me in making my point.
                          ozz.........
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                          Last edited by ace diamond; 11-16-2010, 05:03 AM.
                          Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                          When Hagar speaks, I want to cut off my ears and send them to Bristol Palin.
                          "It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace Diamond

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                          • ace diamond
                            Full Member Status

                            • Sep 2004
                            • 3863

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ace diamond
                            ok, folks-let's simplify this whole debate.
                            all politicians are greedy and corrupt lying fucking sacks of shit who are only out for themselves by any means necessary.
                            absolute power absolutely corrupts.
                            it's the eternal quest for who can gain the most power and possess more quantities of the almighty dollar than everyone else....
                            etc, etc, etc,.............
                            here, i'm now going to hand the reigns over to ozzy to assist me in making my point.
                            ozz.........
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                            furthermore:
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                            and also, ozzy says this:
                            Mother please forgive them
                            For they know not what they do
                            Looking back in history's books
                            It seems it's nothing new
                            Oh, let my mother live

                            Heaven is for heroes
                            And hell is full of fools
                            Stupidity, no will to live
                            They're breaking God's own rules
                            Please let my mother live

                            Father of all creation
                            I think we're all going wrong
                            The path they're taking
                            Seems to be breaking
                            And it won't take too long
                            Children of the future
                            Watching empires fall
                            Madness, the cup they drink from
                            Self destruction, the toll

                            I had a vision, l saw the world burn
                            And the seas had turned red
                            The sun had fallen, the final curtain
                            In the land of the dead
                            Mother, please show the children
                            Before it's too late
                            To fight each other, there's no one winning
                            We must fight all the hate

                            so, to say that ozzy has seen this coming for a long time and has tried to warn us for at least 40 years is food for thought.
                            now i know that geezer butler wrote these immortal words of warning back in 1970, but ozzy is the one who sang them to us.

                            Generals gathered in their masses,
                            Just like witches at black masses.
                            Evil minds that plot destruction,
                            Sorcerers of death's construction.
                            In the fields the bodies burning,
                            As the war machine keeps turning.
                            Death and hatred to mankind,
                            Poisoning their brainwashed minds.
                            Oh lord, yeah!

                            Politicians hide themselves away.
                            They only started the war.
                            Why should they go out to fight?
                            They leave that role to the poor, yeah.

                            Time will tell on their power minds,
                            Making war just for fun.
                            Treating people just like pawns in chess,
                            Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.

                            Now in darkness world stops turning,
                            Ashes where the bodies burning.
                            No more War Pigs have the power,
                            Hand of God has struck the hour.
                            Day of judgement, God is calling,
                            On their knees the war pigs crawling.
                            Begging mercies for their sins,
                            Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
                            Oh lord, yeah!

                            maybe it's just me, but is anyone else sensing a general theme here?

                            and for the last 40 years we have ignored ozzy and his and geezer butler's wise words of warning.

                            sometimes art imitates life, and sometimes life imitates art.
                            ultimately, they mirror each other as a reflection of each other and the times.

                            perhaps it is not too late for us to finally heed these aforementioned warnings and take actions to stop
                            the country from passing the point of no return, because, frankly, were a lot closer
                            to the brink than you may think.
                            Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                            When Hagar speaks, I want to cut off my ears and send them to Bristol Palin.
                            "It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace Diamond

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35755

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ace diamond

                              and also, ozzy says this:
                              Mother please forgive them
                              For they know not what they do
                              Looking back in history's books
                              It seems it's nothing new
                              Oh, let my mother live
                              ...
                              One of the problems with your post is Ozzy never wrote any of this.

                              I guess taking your political beliefs from an Australian bass player rather than an Australian billionaire media magnate is a step forward though...

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                              • ashstralia
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6566

                                #45
                                haha! ace is punk drosting.....

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