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  • SunisinuS
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • May 2010
    • 3301

    #46
    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    The key is to be organized. The government can mop up an unorganized rabble. Everyone is amazed Egypt could shut down the internet so quickly. It would be almost impossible to do in the US because we have so many internet providers, networks, and routes. It's nothing new. It's why the Romans provided bread and circuses. To keep the people pacified. If the average guy has a job, can buy a beer after work, and get laid, they are pretty much happy. The average person doesn't need much. Once that goes away they get mad and take to the streets. It's happening worldwide and probably will start to happen here in a year or two. Europe is already percolating.

    Nitro: On my Morale thread I said it first......Europe is poised to hurt. It started with that Garbage problem in Naples.
    Last edited by SunisinuS; 01-30-2011, 05:04 PM. Reason: People are sick of Garbage.
    Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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    • Golden AWe
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 34245

      #47
      Originally posted by Hardrock69
      The interesting thing is the reputation the military have. All males between 18 and 30 are required to serve at least one year.

      And the military has a history of overthrowing dictators in order to establish democratic rule. So even though they have been called out, they have been welcomed by the protesters, and are not beating them down. It is the police service that is hated by the people, which is why they have been looting all the police stations, while the military stand by doing nothing, and as a result are not being attacked by the public.

      It is inevitable that Mubarek step down. I mean, what the fuck is he going to do, try to retain power while the entire country is rebelling against him?

      I hope it all works out well also. I hope that any replacement for the current regime is a more free and open society, with no militant religious zealots fucking shit up.
      Yeah. It was funny how the finnish media wrote about the latest events. We've got some very independent media here, when it comes to foreign politics, but this time the finnish reporters wrote how "the crowds have started to rob shops and houses now". So robbing is more scary than your own police forces mercelessly killing and mugging people on the streets!
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      • SunisinuS
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • May 2010
        • 3301

        #48
        Originally posted by sadaist
        Kinda gay, but I've always wanted to ride a camel at the pyramids. I have a friend who is Kuwaiti & he laughs at me when I say that. He says "dude, have you ever ridden a camel? Do you not realize what that fucker will try to do? You will be sore for a week!" I guess they are really mean & nasty too. But hey, that makes it sound even better. Telling the grandkids someday that the scar on my arm is from a scrap I got into with a camel while in front of the great pyramids.

        Or swim in the Nile River & shout "Sammy Hagar was never in Van Halen!".
        I actually have always wanted to rent a Barge and just float down the Nile. A huge floating Party. Crocodiles can bite me. Lol I will be swimming late at night looking up at my rental party barge.....lol. Maybe now it will be possible.
        Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35750

          #49
          Well according to Fox News the whole country is moving East at a fair rate of knots.



          They really are a bunch of useless fucks at that station...

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35750

            #50
            Originally posted by SunisinuS
            Exactly......I have always wanted to visit Egypt and have been denied because of my color. I have waited for years to visit that place and India as well but until they stop hurting everyone that looks different
            I don't know what color you are but sounds it like you have been very badly informed.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              #51
              Originally posted by SunisinuS
              Nitro: On my Morale thread I said it first......Europe is poised to hurt. It started with that Garbage problem in Naples.
              If you want to stay in control, you have to give the little guy something. Most people aren't motivated enough to put the hard work in to be super successful. Especially nowadays but you have to give the average person the bare things that keep them happy and that doesn't really require a lot. Once you take that away people get angry. What has happened is the rich have mismanaged their companies and banks. They went broke so they go after the little guy because that's who is left. That's why you let the too big to fails fail. Something better will replace them but if you bail them out the little people get squeezed to keep the ponzi scheme going a little longer.

              If we didn't bailout those fucks, we would start to see the glimmer of a recovery by now, but they just stole our money and saddled us with future debt to pass the money around to themselves. Nothing is going to the little guy and the little guy got saddled with the debt. This is why people are angry worldwide. When people pay high taxes and then have their tuition jacked 200% they want to take the prince's head off.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Hardrock69
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Feb 2005
                • 21897

                #52
                Originally posted by SunisinuS
                To be honest.....it is not for us to decide.

                I have a roomate that is ex navy seal....
                Your roommate is Donald Sutherland?

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                • Hardrock69
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 21897

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  Maybe Murbarak is a puppet and the objective is to stir the shit. Maybe bigger forces than Murbarak want a revolution in Egypt and to stir the whole middle east up. Why? The western world's economy has tanked and the politicians have no solutions. People have woken up that the banks have stolen the citizens money. When politicians have no solutions they take you to war. They use war as a distraction. Not everyone wants peace. Some people gain a lot from war, especially bankers.
                  Well, go ask the CIA about all that. It has been their standard M.O. since they were created.

                  The US does not care if a country has a dictator or not, as long as the stooge in power is not too obvious about all the human rights violations that occur.

                  In this case though, Mubarek has been playing pattycake with the US for 30 years, and has not been doing anything to agitate the US government, so this just may a good example of the freedom the internet gives people to rise up in open revolt against an unpopular asshole.

                  The Chinese are watching this closely I am sure.

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Hardrock69
                    Well, go ask the CIA about all that. It has been their standard M.O. since they were created.

                    The US does not care if a country has a dictator or not, as long as the stooge in power is not too obvious about all the human rights violations that occur.

                    In this case though, Mubarek has been playing pattycake with the US for 30 years, and has not been doing anything to agitate the US government, so this just may a good example of the freedom the internet gives people to rise up in open revolt against an unpopular asshole.

                    The Chinese are watching this closely I am sure.
                    The US is the whipping post right now due to our invasion of Iraq but history shows all superpowers have played the same game. Bush's cabinet was full of people that wanted to seize arab oil in the 1970's but he US congress wouldn't go for it. Once 9/11 happened and those guys were in the executive branch they went for it. Also during this time a B-52 bomber loaded with nukes was heading to the middle east but got stopped due to a violation of Air Force protocols. It was the air men at the base that flagged the problem. A lot of shit has been going down in the last 10 years regarding the middle east. It just may be the next chess board between China and the US as long as oil is the modern world's most valuable resource.

                    I think the powers that outsourced us to China knew they still had advanced military technology to keep China blackmailed and controlling the middle east is perfect for that. China is now onto it. Maybe that is why they possibly launched a missle off of LA and unveiled some of their modern weapon technology. I think we are getting into another arms race and cyber and economic warfare are in play here.
                    Last edited by Nitro Express; 01-31-2011, 02:48 AM.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Dr. Love
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7833

                      #55
                      Tomorrow they are planning a general strike, a large protest and to march towards the presidential palace. Should be an interesting day.
                      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Dr. Love
                        Tomorrow they are planning a general strike, a large protest and to march towards the presidential palace. Should be an interesting day.
                        The way our politicians have been screwing us, we will be marching on our presidential palace soon enough. Especially when unemployment and costs of living rise.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Blaze
                          Full Member Status

                          • Jan 2009
                          • 4371

                          #57
                          Egypt's Facebook Rebel

                          Mike Giglio – Sun Jan 30, 10:42 pm ET

                          In Egypt, a Facebook page administrator known only by the handle El Shaheeed, or Martyr, is one of the driving forces behind the historic protests. Mike Giglio tracks down the mysterious figure, who talks about his crucial role in organizing the demonstrations.

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                          With the next protest scheduled for that Friday, activists including El Shaheeed were busy coordinating their response to what they believed would be a brutal government crackdown. A Google document with a list of demands as well as instructions for the demonstrations was, at one point, viewed at the same time by more than 200 people, altered in real-time by dozens of editors.

                          In a harried conversation on the eve of Friday’s protests, El Shaheeed vowed to stay anonymous even if the revolution succeeded. “This is not about me,” El Shaheeed said. “This is about the people of Egypt. I want to go back to my real life. I don’t want any glory. I wasn’t seeking it to start with.”

                          Shortly afterward, the Egyptian government cut Internet access.

                          Two days later, Wael Khalil stood among thousands of other people in Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the demonstrations. The protests called for Friday had continued into the next evening, seemingly tipping the balance of power. Police stations across the country had been overrun; the National Party Headquarters had been burned to the ground; faced with tens of thousands of demonstrators, police had disappeared. On the tanks that had taken their place, protesters scribbled pro-democracy slogans without interference from the soldiers.

                          In a telephone call, Khalil said that he hadn’t heard from El Shaheeed since Thursday night; with the Internet still down, the Facebook page had been inactive ever since. But perhaps there was no more use for it—it had played its role.

                          Fires still burned on the streets of the capital; in their flickering light, people huddled together to talk openly about revolution for the first time in many years.

                          Perhaps somewhere in the crowds was El Shaheeed.

                          Mike Giglio is a reporter at Newsweek.

                          Read full story here ->
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                          • Blaze
                            Full Member Status

                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4371

                            #58
                            Al Jazeera told to shut down in Egypt, signal cut

                            The latest news and headlines from Yahoo News. Get breaking news stories and in-depth coverage with videos and photos.




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                            "The Information Minister ordered ... suspension of operations of Al Jazeera, cancelling of its licenses and withdrawing accreditation to all its staff as of today," a statement on Egypt's official Mena news agency said.

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                            "Al Jazeera assures its audiences in Egypt and across the world that it will continue its in-depth and comprehensive reporting on the events unfolding in Egypt."

                            Egyptian state television largely ignored the protests for the first five days until a curfew was announced on Friday, the day of the biggest protests up to that point.

                            Since then it has aired more coverage of events on the streets but has focused on disorder more than protests against Mubarak.

                            (Reporting by Eman Goma in Kuwait, Cairo newsroom and Regan E. Doherty in Doha; Writing by Cynthia Johnston and Reed Stevenson; editing by Tim Pearce)
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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Blaze
                              Egyptian state television largely ignored the protests for the first five days....

                              Since then it has aired more coverage of events on the streets but has focused on disorder more than protests against Mubarak.

                              Wow. Sounds exactly like the US media coverage of the Tea Party gatherings the summer of 2009. They failed to report on it dismissing it as "Astroturf" rather than grass roots. And once they did show anything, it was the couple of nutbags with offensive signs rather than the large majority of people there.
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                              • Blaze
                                Full Member Status

                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4371

                                #60
                                5 Ways to Get Live Info about Egypt Protests Online As of Friday

                                Ian Paul – Fri Jan 28, 9:26 am ET
                                The Egyptian government shut down access to the Internet early Friday morning, affecting about 88 percent of the country's online networks. While blackouts of selected sites such as YouTube, Facebook, and Google are common in countries with autocratic and totalitarian governments, this appears to be the first time a government tried to shut down all Internet access.

                                Even though Internet access in Egypt is blacked out, you can still find a fair amount of live information about the protests online. Here are five ways to still find out what's going on in Egypt from people who are close to the action:

                                Live Video Stream (gone)
                                Al Jazeera English has a live video stream showing the latest video shots and still images from protests that are rocking the North African country.

                                Live Blog
                                The Guardian has a live blog about events in Egypt and around the Middle East.
                                Hosni Mubarak asks his cabinet to resign on the fourth and most violent day of protests against Mubarak's 30-year rule


                                Twitter
                                Associated Press reporter Diaa Hadid (@diaahadid) has been able to send out tweets on a limited basis from Cairo. It's not clear how she's able to do this or how long this access will last. A recent tweet: "Can see teargas plumes and police charging from AP office. Protesters fighting back."

                                CNN's Ben Wedeman, (@bencnn) based in Cairo, also appears to be able to get the word out via Twitter. Recent tweet: "Tear gas being fired on protesters under 6 October Bridge on Corniche Al-Nil."

                                Jan 25 Voice (@Jan25Voices) claims to be talking to people on the phone inside Egypt and then relaying those eyewitness reports via Twitter. January 25 refers to the first days of protests in Egypt, and has now become a Twitter hashtag to report on news coming out of that country. You can follow the Jan25 hashtag here.


                                Recent tweet: "So far today? Attacks on protesters, press. Internet, cell phone service cut. Nobel laureate arrested. And day still young."


                                Connect with Ian Paul (@ianpaul) and Today@PCWorld on Twitter for the latest tech news and analysis.
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