Federal Judge Rules ObamaCare Unconstitutional

[Jesus Christ]

What benefits Caesar, Gregory? A healthy productive population, or having many who are sick and unable to work?

[ELVIS]

What difference does it make if there are no jobs...

[Hardrock69]

No. You are supposed to believe Satan has to watch his budget, just like anyone else.

I bet God reads him the riot act when he goes over budget, but then, his job IS to torment people, so he has a built-in exuse.

"Hey God, you WANT me to turn the fires up hotter because you have been throwing people like Jerry Falwell down here lately. Coal and oil are not cheap! If you have any complaints, go talk to Exxon or BP Petroleum! Sure they give me a discount due to the fact I use more oil than anyone on the planet, but that still does not mean it is cheap!"

Sorry to put words in your mouth, Oh Prince Of All That Is Evilness....

[BigBadBrian]

I never said anything like that. What I said was that there are government programs that do well, as you were suggesting there are none other than the military.

You know, there are government programs that assist with education. You should check into one that helps with reading comprehension. I've heard they're very successful ... for a government program.

I'll follow your lead on this. Perhaps you'd be better off with a private education this time. Obviously you quite often mistake "well" for "barely adequate."

You're a true government-worshiping Marxist at heart.

[BigBadBrian]

Private companies do things for one reason: profit.

Now I'm the Devil, so I have nothing against greed.

Profit and greed are not the same thing. Profit breeds excellence.

FORD, do you believe in our free-market economic system?

Would you actually want your doctor making only $100,000 a year?

[BigBadBrian]

Which is why the majority of pharmaceutical drugs merely treat symptoms, but do nothing to remedy the actual cause of the problem.

Statements like this are hilarious.

[Dr. Love]

Perhaps you'd be better off with a private education this time.

If I am, it's only because there was an effective government program administering my grants and loans, working with my school's Bursar and dispensing funds for me and many, many other students, semester after semester, like barely-adequate clockwork.

[BigBadBrian]

This ruling means absolutely nothing at this point. Eventually the law will be reviewed by the Supreme Court which will have final say.

Thanks for the obvious.

We all missed the part where the article said: "The Obama administration said it would appeal Vinson's ruling and believed it would prevail on a highly politicized issue likely to end up at the Supreme Court."

[ELVIS]

What benefits Caesar, Gregory? A healthy productive population, or having many who are sick and unable to work?

And BTW, our current sick care system does not in any way promote a healthy productive population whatsoever, and government control of the system will not make that any better...

Real health care consists of proper nutrition combined with a moderate exercise program (and spiritual well being) and that is something the majority of americans refuse to accept...

So, having a sickcare system that will supply idiots with government regulated medication, doctor visits and hospitalization because they chose to neglect their health for fifty years is rediculous...

[ELVIS]

If I am, it's only because there was an effective government program administering my grants and loans, working with my school's Bursar and dispensing funds for me and many, many other students, semester after semester, like barely-adequate clockwork.

You don't really believe that garbage...

[Hardrock69]

Insurance companies should be outlawed.

Survival of the fittest.

Darwinism of the masses in the 21st century. If you get sick, you pay cash or you don't. You get in a car crash, the person whose fault it is pays cash. So what if the loser winds up in the poorhouse. This will increase the fatality rate for just average stuff like flu, or other diseases which can be fatal, but rarely are fatal for those who can afford healthcare.

:D

[ELVIS]

Insurance companies should be outlawed.

:D

That's stupid...

Insurance companies should compete for your business just like the current car insurance companies...

I think people should buy basic hospitalization insurance but pay for most medications and doctor visits out of pocket. If you can't afford it, apply for state or federal government assistance...

If you want more coverage that covers more medications and doctor visits, you're going to pay more...

Lastly, each state should oversee their own healthcare system and regulate the insurance for it's citizens...NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!

[Dr. Love]

You don't really believe that garbage...

That's true, it wasn't really barely adequate. They actually did a pretty good job of funding all my grants and loans on time so I could get my degree without financial issues.

[Jesus Christ]

And BTW, our current sick care system does not in any way promote a healthy productive population whatsoever, and government control of the system will not make that any better...

The reason thy current system does not promote a healthy productive population is because their main motivation is profit. And verily, they profit from "return customers" so they treat symptoms as opposed to the cause of illness. Surely ye hath seen this as a nurse?

Real health care consists of proper nutrition combined with a moderate exercise program (and spiritual well being) and that is something the majority of americans refuse to accept...

Thou art correct in this, Gregory, but that does not excuse the profit-driven corruption in the so-called "health-care" system. And it also goes into a discussion of the corruption in what is considered "food" in thy country, but that is entirely another thread. Yet again, the problem there also, is profit above all else. Things that Dad and I never created are considered "food", and then ye wonder why it maketh you sick. Bottom line: if We didn't create it, you really shouldn't eat it.

So, having a sickcare system that will supply idiots with government regulated medication, doctor visits and hospitalization because they chose to neglect their health for fifty years is rediculous...

As opposed to a profit driven system with pharmaceutical company "regulated" medication, 10 minute doctor visits, and hospitalization limited to what the insurance corporations choose to cover, which is what ye have now?

[Nitro Express]

That's stupid...

Insurance companies should compete for your business just like the current car insurance companies...

I think people should buy basic hospitalization insurance but pay for most medications and doctor visits out of pocket. If you can't afford it, apply for state or federal government assistance...

If you want more coverage that covers more medications and doctor visits, you're going to pay more...

Lastly, each state should oversee their own healthcare system and regulate the insurance for it's citizens...NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!

Everything used to be local and in the past it worked pretty good. Most the hospitals were ran by charitable organizations and church's. Schools were locally managed as well. We built a super power nation on local government in the past. The federal government is so out of control now, its regulating what kind of light bulbs we buy. That's so GE can charge us more money per bulb more than anything.