Why Scott Walker Must Win

[FORD]

If people want to teach their kids stupid shit at home like "the earth is flat" or "gay people are despicable sinners whom God hates" or "blacks are descended from fallen angels who were too lazy to fight Satan", then they can do that in their own homes, I suppose (though it certainly borders on child abuse to do so).

However, the kids should NOT be mandated to live in that stupidity the rest of their lives by being pulled out of school and not allowed access to reality. The only reason idiotic bullshit like racism and homophobia still exist today is because of idiots who teach it to their kids, and its usually disguised as "religion". And these are the very people who are home schooling because, "god damn it, my kids ain't gonna be taught NOT to hate!!!"

[Seshmeister]

So what's your solution? Throw all religious people into a re-education camp and if they don't change work them to death?

There is no full solution but I would make it very awkward for home schooling people simply by demanding they reach the same academic standards as at school. Someone who is a biologist cannot properly teach chemistry and so on. There has to be specialisation and even the smartest parent cannot teach everything required.

The partial solution is that if children go to schools and are taught properly and religion is not in schools then many will reject fundamentalist religious beliefs in time as they get educated. In a generation or two things will improve.

The thing about the age of the populations is true but for the connected reason that birth rates are inversely proportional to the education levels of the females in any given society. Get the girls into schools and the birth rate goes down.

[Nitro Express]

One of our neighbors home schools and their kids were getting accepted to some great universities. I was wondering how do they get in without a traditional transcript. It's all the ACT and SAT test scores, so as long as you can score high on those tests you can get into any university. Grades really don't mean anything anymore.

[ELVIS]

If people want to teach their kids stupid shit at home like "the earth is flat" or "gay people are despicable sinners whom God hates" or "blacks are descended from fallen angels who were too lazy to fight Satan", then they can do that in their own homes, I suppose (though it certainly borders on child abuse to do so).

However, the kids should NOT be mandated to live in that stupidity the rest of their lives by being pulled out of school and not allowed access to reality. The only reason idiotic bullshit like racism and homophobia still exist today is because of idiots who teach it to their kids, and its usually disguised as "religion". And these are the very people who are home schooling because, "god damn it, my kids ain't gonna be taught NOT to hate!!!"

It sure sounds better than possibly turning out with your mentality...

You think big liberal government is the answer to everything and you possess and express vile hatred for anything less...

[bueno bob]

Part of the problem is idiots like you that think education is up to the federal government to fix and throwing money at the problem will magically help...

Taking money AWAY from the problem has certainly been a big help, hasn't it?

Amazing that the kids of my generation seemed to be doing so much better and yet had more money and more resources.

Of course, I could throw up the argument that the access to online information has eased up determinate educational standards and cite you examples, but I'm just an gainfully employed, literate, highly educated idiot...

The wisconsin union school teachers make well over 100k per year if you factor in benefits, yet wisconsin school kids can't read...

Show me evidence of that. No, seriously. I haven't seen any public school teacher making over $100,000.00 a year personally, but if there's evidence out there of it, I'll certainly read over it. As long as it's legitimate information. Feel free to share, please.

Should the wisconsin taxpayers pay them more ?? Will that make the kids read??

No, but Scott Walker shouldn't give millions upon millions to mega-conglomerates and then blame the state's shortfalls on public employees, either. One wrong doesn't negate the other. Or so my idiot mind tells me. Maybe you have a different idea?

[bueno bob]

...just anOTHER gainfully employed, literate, highly educated idiot...

Oooops....

[FORD]

It sure sounds better than possibly turning out with your mentality...

You think big liberal government is the answer to everything and you possess and express vile hatred for anything less...

No I don't.

I think there are things that should not be for profit industries. These would include:

Education
Health Care
Defense
Energy
Infrastructure - which means not just trains & freeways but also the airwaves and the internet.

Pretty much anything else should be opened up to properly regulated competition.

[Matt White]

last I checked...the Wisconsin educational system was doing well....

Milwaukee? Not so much...just behind DETROIT (STAND UP DETROIT)....and a couple of other troubled cities....

So....lets see...well funded schools in well funded areas...or rural areas...or ANY area where a kid doesn't have to worry about getting shot in a drive-bye...or if they've got enough food to eat....or if Dad is going to prision....YEAH...thos kids typically don't do as well as kids in areas where parents HAVE JOBS...and homes...and food...and heat...

YEAH...cut those kids off...

Drop Corporate Income tax...its worked so well for OHIO.....

insane...Corporate taxes have practically vanished since the 1950's...So..WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE JOBS?!?!?!?!

Oh yeah...China...you know, those guys who we used to oppose at every turn? Yeah....before a certain portion of our population realised "Hey! Look! Cheap labor!!!"

[Nitro Express]

Exxon/Mobile and General Electric pay no US taxes but smaller corporations pay some of the highest corporate taxes in the industrialized world in the US. It seems like the richest corporations don't pay taxes and seem to have their guys planted in Washington DC. So we have to be careful about just saying corporations are getting a free ride when some aren't.

[the atomic punk]

The wisconsin union school teachers make well over 100k per year if you factor in benefits,

Those are Rush Limbaugh numbers. FOX buisness's Eric Bolling called it $89,000 but that's high too. The actual number is around $75,000, which ranks 23rd in the nation for public school teachers. The article contains a link to the actual WI dept. of Ed numbers.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/23/eric-bolling/fox-business-news-eric-bolling-says-wisconsin-teac/

[BigBadBrian]

$75,000 is stilll too high. The fucks don't even want to contribute to their own healthcare or pension costs.

[the atomic punk]

yet wisconsin school kids can't read...

You are quoting Drudge now. While it's true that 2/3 of WI 8th graders can't read "proficiently" (meaning at or above grade level, not that they "can't read"), that is sadly above the national average.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102220030

[the atomic punk]

$75,000 is stilll too high. The fucks don't even want to contribute to their own healthcare or pension costs.

Not true. They already contributed to both and agreed to contribute more. The current impasse is over collective bargining rights. You really think you can find quality school teachers at less than $75,000 a year? Where? Jiffy Lube? There is already a shortage of qualified teachers.

[the atomic punk]

Should the wisconsin taxpayers pay them more ?? Will that make the kids read ??

The teachers aren't asking for more money.

[BigBadBrian]

Not true. They already contributed to both and agreed to contribute more. The current impasse is over collective bargining rights. You really think you can find quality school teachers at less than $75,000 a year? Where? Jiffy Lube? There is already a shortage of qualified teachers.

Not in my area. Maybe a shortage in the inner cities...who'd want to go there? And yes, good teachers can be had for less than $75,000. A lot of university lectures and professors make less than that.