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  • jacksmar
    Full Member Status

    • Feb 2004
    • 3533

    #61
    How Flaws Undid Obama’s Hope for High-Speed Rail in Florida



    The rest of the world calls them bullet trains because they go so fast. But in the United States, the nickname is apt for a different reason: They keep getting shot down.

    The nation’s first true high-speed railroad was supposed to leave the station in 2015, a sleek Tomorrowland-worthy train that would have whisked riders between Orlando and Tampa at speeds of up to 168 miles an hour.

    Tampa and Orlando are only 84 miles apart, generally considered too close for high-speed rail to make sense. The train trip, with many stops along the way, would have shaved only around a half-hour off the drive. Since there are no commercial flights between the two cities, the new line would not have lured away fliers or freed up landing slots at the busy airports. And neither Tampa nor Orlando has many public transportation options. So the question arose: Could riders be persuaded to leave their cars behind and buy tickets to places where they would still probably need cars?
    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #62
      No they would not...

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      • chefcraig
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Apr 2004
        • 12172

        #63
        And neither Tampa nor Orlando has many public transportation options. So the question arose: Could riders be persuaded to leave their cars behind and buy tickets to places where they would still probably need cars?
        Which is the problem facing most municipalities, be the train a high speed rocket or built on technology for a kid's ride at the county fair: Without an infrastructure of supporting/connecting buses or trolley services, travelers are have two choices, either renting a car or using a taxi, neither option being long on convenience or light on expense. And even if transportation is readily available, just what are people supposed to do with their luggage or bags full of shopping items? As a consumer driven society, Americans are used to some sense of independence as well as convenience. Asking them to give up either for the sake of expedience is simply not going to happen in our lifetime without reprogramming on an astronomically giant scale.









        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
        ― Stephen Hawking

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58807

          #64
          This is what happens when the BCE runs your state.
          Eat Us And Smile

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35207

            #65
            Originally posted by jacksmar
            And neither Tampa nor Orlando has many public transportation options. So the question arose: Could riders be persuaded to leave their cars behind and buy tickets to places where they would still probably need cars?
            That's actually a really good point.

            I once stayed for 5 days in Orlando without a car and ended up spending about $600 on taxis.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32798

              #66
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              That's actually a really good point.

              I once stayed for 5 days in Orlando without a car and ended up spending about $600 on taxis.
              Only a lunatic would spend $600 on taxis. You need to learn how to get good car rental deals.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58807

                #67
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                LOL I've been reading a new fad where straight guys go to gay bars (high end ones, not ones with macho leather dudes) in order to pick up the five to ten extremely hot women there with their gay friends...
                Upside of that is that you have a lot less competition, at least from the males (though if the women have any inclinations to swing from both sides of the plate, that opens up a whole new field of competition.) Sometimes the girls just go there to dance, and the gay guys do that better than most of us breeders do.

                Downside is, don't get so drunk that you forget to check that the women are actually women. I have seen a few trannies that might have fooled me under heavy beer goggles.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

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                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35207

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  Only a lunatic would spend $600 on taxis. You need to learn how to get good car rental deals.
                  I never drink and drive.

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    That's actually a really good point.
                    And that's been one of my points...

                    American suburbs and neighborhoods are way too spread out...

                    You would have to drive to the train and then find additional transportation for the last legs of your travel...

                    And Florida has nice roads and highways that are not badly congested...

                    Nobody would use it and it would lose tons of money...


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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #70
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Upside of that is that you have a lot less competition, at least from the males (though if the women have any inclinations to swing from both sides of the plate, that opens up a whole new field of competition.) Sometimes the girls just go there to dance, and the gay guys do that better than most of us breeders do.
                      You're like the Roth Army queer expert...

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                      • chefcraig
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 12172

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        And Florida has nice roads and highways that are not badly congested...
                        Really, whereabouts? I might move there.









                        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                        ― Stephen Hawking

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58807

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          I'm like the Roth Army Klan expert...
                          That's really nothing to brag about.
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

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                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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