Can Obama win re-election?

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  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625

    #16
    Oh Kristy...I have noticed some things I buy from 7-11 are the same price, but smaller. Like a 10 oz yogurt is now 8 oz. Or a 16 oz orange juice is 12 oz now. Packages look identical and the price is the same, but once you actually pick it up you notice something is wrong. Fucking gipped again. I think even the grab bag of Lays potato chips has less content in them now too.
    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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    • Va Beach VH Fan
      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
      • Dec 2003
      • 17913

      #17
      I think the more accurate question is not whether Obama can win re-election, but rather who can defeat him ??

      Pawlenty could be an interesting candidate... It seems that he could be attractive to the main Republican voting base....

      Whether that would be enough, who knows....
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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59619

        #18
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        You must be drunk AND high...
        Haven't been either in a really long time. Hell, I don't even drink coffee anymore. If not for the tea, and an occasional beer, I could pass for Mormon. Except I never liked the underwear......
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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59619

          #19
          Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
          I think the more accurate question is not whether Obama can win re-election, but rather who can defeat him ??

          Pawlenty could be an interesting candidate... It seems that he could be attractive to the main Republican voting base....

          Whether that would be enough, who knows....
          Pawlenty doesn't have a chance in Hell. In a country where roads and bridges are falling apart daily, thanks to Repuke budget cuts, the asshole who actually let one collapse and kill 13 people doesn't have a prayer. And should the KKKoch Brothers somehow buy him the nomination, I'll personally make sure nobody forgets Timmy's greatest "accomplishment".....

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          • sadaist
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jul 2004
            • 11625

            #20
            I haven't heard anything about this in a while, but will any Democrats challenge Barack? Early on there was rumblings of Hillary doing it. But it's clear she just wants to retire & make the big bucks speaking & doing humanitarian work. She's working herself to the bone for a boss that doesn't like her. We all know that's a shitty situation.
            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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            • LoungeMachine
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 32576

              #21
              Gingrich, Palin, Bachman, Trump.......



              Good luck RePukes.

              See you in 2016

              Originally posted by Kristy
              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59619

                #22
                I'm more worried about Diebold "winning" the election for the Repukes than any of their actual candidates. Candidate Obama brought so many voters in that the turnout was enough to negate the fraud. As huge of an electoral victory as he had, "officially", I've read reports that suggest the actual number of people who voted for him was even higher than that, by a significant margin.

                Of course the fact that President Obama has not even TRIED to live up to what Candidate Obama ran on, means that he will lose a big chunk of that turnout. And while I don't believe the majority of people would actually be DUMB enough to think the likes of Palin, Bachmann, or Newt could do better, all it takes is the whore media telling them that the Repuke "won" and they won't question it.

                How do I know that? Because they didn't question an imbecile chimp who wasn't elected EITHER time.
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                • Kristy
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 16739

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sadaist
                  Oh Kristy...I have noticed some things I buy from 7-11 are the same price, but smaller. Like a 10 oz yogurt is now 8 oz. Or a 16 oz orange juice is 12 oz now. Packages look identical and the price is the same, but once you actually pick it up you notice something is wrong. Fucking gipped again. I think even the grab bag of Lays potato chips has less content in them now too.
                  Deceit in advertizing is nothing new. But who shops at a 7-11? I don't go there even when desperate for food or gas. Unless you're Bill Gates most are starting to feel the pinch. After, rent, student loans, insurance, and other miscellaneous bills food could always figure into my budget but now I no longer know how I can afford to live. And now I just discovered the local transit light rail system I use is raising their prices. The cost is just out of control. Last year a three zone pass was $128 p/month! I'm not kidding! Now they have the balls to raise it to $143 a month. Just out of control.

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                  • Terry
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 12126

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sadaist
                    Obama could easily lose re-election. Problem is....who the fuck are we (republicans) gonna run?

                    Here is my NO NO list for Republicans if they wanna even come close to winning.

                    Sarah Palin
                    Michelle Bachman
                    Jeb Bush
                    John McCain
                    Bobby Jindal
                    Charlie Crist
                    Rudy Guliani
                    Ron Paul
                    Lindsey Graham
                    Tim Pawlenty
                    Sarah Palin (yeah, listed her twice. She's that bad)


                    I saw Gen. David Petraeus' name being floated around. I think a great ticket would be Trump / Petraeus. Trump would be great as far as the recession, deficit, economy, oil prices, and all the money we owe everyone. Petraeus would be great with all the wars we are currently involved in. Yes Trump has a lot of dirty laundry. But everyone already knows about it all.

                    As far as Gingrich & Romney.....I'm not sure yet 1 way or the other.

                    Oh, and Chris Christie. But he has made it extremely clear he is not running. So if he flopped and did run, it would look pretty bad.
                    The whole notion of Trump somehow being well-versed on economic matters wouldn't stand up to close scrutiny. I seriously doubt that most people even realize the various buildings that bear the Trump name aren't controlled by "The Donald". The fact that Trump is just a brand name and people far more wealthier put up the liquidity behind his ventures would put an end to the facade of him being a Master of the Universe. Plus, if we're still bogged down in Afghanistan two years from now, Petraeus isn't gonna appear so all-knowing when it comes to military matters.

                    Gingrich isn't a serious choice. Like Palin, his poll numbers have nowhere to go but down the minute he announces.

                    Christie perhaps. If he decides to run, he has the advantage of doing so before any meaningful analysis of his tenure as NJ Gov could be made.

                    Put it this way: if one chooses to compare Obama to Carter, I don't see a Reagan in any of the names floated above. Not even close.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Terry
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 12126

                      #25
                      Originally posted by binnie
                      This is a question from complete ignorance: would Condolezza Rice be a good candidate?

                      She always seemed incredibly intelligent to me.....
                      She won't run.

                      She values her privacy far too much.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35754

                        #26
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        I'm more worried about Diebold "winning" the election for the Repukes than any of their actual candidates. Candidate Obama brought so many voters in that the turnout was enough to negate the fraud. As huge of an electoral victory as he had, "officially", I've read reports that suggest the actual number of people who voted for him was even higher than that, by a significant margin.

                        Of course the fact that President Obama has not even TRIED to live up to what Candidate Obama ran on, means that he will lose a big chunk of that turnout. And while I don't believe the majority of people would actually be DUMB enough to think the likes of Palin, Bachmann, or Newt could do better, all it takes is the whore media telling them that the Repuke "won" and they won't question it.

                        How do I know that? Because they didn't question an imbecile chimp who wasn't elected EITHER time.
                        I think you just find it too painful to accept that there are/were so many people out there who happily voted for Bush.

                        2000 was dodgy but the point is that it was close enough that it became uncountable and although Bush took over because of sheer power, Gore didn't really have a mandate either, there should have been a re-election. In 2004 his percentage went up and he won quite comfortably. I was there screaming warnings on here about him from 1999 onwards but you have to accept the facts.

                        A recent survey found that one third of Americans didn't know the Earth went around the sun and there have been similar things here too.

                        Never underestimate the stupidity of the public.

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                        • knuckleboner
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2927

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sadaist
                          I haven't heard anything about this in a while, but will any Democrats challenge Barack?
                          dennis kucinich is the only one. he clearly wants to, he's just not sure he has the fundraising to make it worth his while. but he's trying.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59619

                            #28
                            Were there people stupid enough to vote for Chimpy? Of course there were. Sadly, the archives of this very forum are evidence of that. Even though some of them lived to regret it, and others even attempt to deny now that they ever voted for the idiot.

                            But given all the right wing groups who voiced their disgust with Chimp in 2004, it's just not mathematically possible that the guy who lost in 2000 would have more votes in 2004. Ohio was an outright theft, and the guy who helped them do it was killed in a plane crash before he could talk. As long as those goddamned machines are being used, you can't really count any election results as truly valid.

                            Not that electro-fraud is the only problem with the political process, of course. Predatory capitalism taking over elections and deliberate misinformation by the corporate whore media are equally as bad, and ensures that even people who intend to vote for fucking idiots still don't really realize what they're doing.
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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35754

                              #29
                              Seems to me that the US has always been pretty bad for electoral fraud for a Western democracy including JFK maybe stealing his win back in the day.

                              The only vaguely reassuring thing is that both sides are so aggressive about it and equally bad that maybe it evens out.

                              I also think if you are looking for the corruption and abuses you are looking in the wrong place with the slightly dodgy Diebold machines. The real shit is the gerrymandering of boundaries which is a hugely developed art form of bullshit and cheating in the US but almost completely ignored.

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35754

                                #30
                                Originally posted by knuckleboner
                                dennis kucinich is the only one. he clearly wants to, he's just not sure he has the fundraising to make it worth his while. but he's trying.
                                He is one of the only politicians I still respect which probably just means I don't know him well enough yet.

                                I would think he is unelectable.

                                This is the real world not the West Wing, maybe if he could pretend he was a cowboy, was a superstitious nut and had nice tits.

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